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I've read a lot of posts that think Hurley is the one that has been on the island and wasn't on the plane. If that's so he would of had to been about 5 maybe when his plane crashed. Last night he had a
CD player and knew exactly what it was. All along I've thought maybe he was on the island because I've never seen him on the plane but now I'm not so sure. Did it actually say somewhere that one of the people had been on the island all along? What do you think?
MaxKaladin
10-28-04, 01:14 PM
I think people are jumping to conclusions when they assume the "person already on the island" is one of the characters we've met so far. I think it's far more likely someone is hiding out on the island somewhere they haven't looked yet and we just haven't "met" them yet. I find that more likely than someone from the island deciding to infiltrate the crash survivors for some reason, being around at the right moment to do so and being able to pull it off seamlessly.
Hurley was on the plane, IMO.
By the way, even if Hurley were someone previously on the island, we don't know he has had to have been there for 16 years. Just because the transmission was calculated by Sayid to be 16 years old does not mean that no other planes or ships have come to the island in the meantime. For all we know, there could be another little group on the other side of the island that got there when a pleasure yacht wrecked there six months ago.
WhereRwe
10-28-04, 01:17 PM
I seriously doubt that Hurley was already on the island. We just haven't seen him in any of the plane sequences yet. They'll tell us his story soon or hopefully they will.
WhereRwe
Colonel Sanders luvs Lost
10-28-04, 01:21 PM
I'm in the not sure yet category, but leaning towards he was on the plane.
i honestly just have no idea whats up with hurley.
he seems to be the only one who hasnt openly had something odd happen to him before the plane crash.
no back story whatsoever. something is up..
He told sayed that he had friends in the first gulf war. if he was on the island how could that have happened?
erock1331
10-28-04, 02:15 PM
Even if he was the child of someone already on the island no way he would grow up to say "dude" all the time, LOL
Unless of course they Fed Ex'd him some Bill and Ted movies and Dude Where's my car to watch.
Also he knew how to use the CD player, I highly doubt if no one has been to the island in over 16 years then there would be no CD players for him to learn how to use...
EagleIFilms
10-28-04, 02:19 PM
Everyone seems to be assuming that Hurley was with the French women. There's no reason to think that. Hurley could have crashed on the island a year ago, that still means he wasn't on the plane, and means he was the person already on the island.
I don't think he is, but I could always be proven wrong.
Don't count him out because he had friends in the first Gulf War.
CaptTimo
10-28-04, 03:56 PM
I hate to point out an obvious flaw in the "Hurley already on the island" Theory. I don't find it at all plausible that someone of Hurley's, uh, girth, would be able to maintain that weight for very long on a subsistance diet. (Unless, of course, there is a McDonalds on the other side of the island.)
I don't think that someone (or someones) in a survival mode would have sufficient resources to allocate to maintaining that size.
kaycee13
10-28-04, 04:29 PM
This is being discussed in many, many places. Check out the Hurley forum. He COULD have been on the island already. As someone mentioned, who's to say he didn't crash there a year or two ago? There is no reason to believe that he MUST have been there 16 years ago just because of the french transmission. Also, he COULD be that large living on the island. All it takes to remain large is eating more calories than you burn. If he was eating a high carb diet (which is likely on an island) and remaining relatively sedentary, he could easily maintain his size.
As I said, this is being discussed in the Hurley forum... come join us there. :)
YourSister
10-28-04, 05:42 PM
I am not sure if Hurley was already on the island or not. But this I do know:
Hurley is the most unknown person left on the island. We know bits and pieces of everyone elses pasts (either from flashbacks or conversations on the island), but we know basically nothing about Hurley. I think this is intentional, but I'm not sure why. He has some serious secrets that I can't wait to find out.
Hurleyluver
10-28-04, 06:13 PM
Ya know, he could have a thyroid problem. :D
Although that would be a stretch, but it is another possible explaination if it turns out he was the one who has been on the island. But still, just cause he's big doesnt mean he had to have eaten everything in site to get that way.
I also never thought of him being there after the french woman but BEFORE the most recent plane crash. THATS a very interesting theory.
Brad Loves Lost
10-28-04, 06:48 PM
Well, his use of slang terms like 'dude' along with his well kept clothing that is perfectly fitted to his size, make me think he was on the plane. Also he doesn't seem that adept at survival to have lived there for so long alone.
If he was already on the island, wouldn't he tell them? Wouldn't he be doing more to help out with whatever information he already knew about the island?
Anything's possible, but at present, I haven't seen any red flags that would lead me to accept that he was already on the island.
psychobunny1
10-28-04, 09:57 PM
I think he was on the plane. I am sure some one would have said, hey I never saw you on the plane.
MsAllegro
10-28-04, 11:49 PM
Remember he also mentioned to Charlie about fishing with his dad in Santa Monica.
And as for his size, remember that starvation slows metabolism. Given the 40 or so days this season is covering, he won't be losing much if at all.
walkingcarpet23
10-29-04, 02:50 AM
I do believe I saw him for an instant on the plane, so there's my answer.
Why can't we get off the topic of someone already being on the island? We've talked it to death and I'm telling you..... he was either playing with our heads, it's the french woman or it's someone we haven't seen yet. :x
aka scout finch
10-29-04, 11:01 PM
From the first post in this thread:Did it actually say somewhere that one of the people had been on the island all along?
Um, don't anyone yell at me. I'm new here and haven't looked at any forum other than this one, but I want to know: Is there an indication that someone was on the island before the crash, or not? If so, what are the clues? Is there a thread addressing this elsewhere?
psychobunny1
10-30-04, 03:17 AM
I think one of the producers hinted at some one already being on the island...
question: Who do we know for sure is on the plane.. I missed the pilot and the first non pilot episode...
I think one of the producers hinted at some one already being on the island...
Indeed they did. The following is from an 'Ain't It Cool News' interview with Damon Lindelof and J.J. Abrams
Beyond the plane’s pilot, and discounting flashbacks, will we meet during the first 13 hours any human beings beyond the 48?
DL: I will not comment on whether or not we'll be meeting any other human beings on the island who were NOT on the plane. But I will posit this -- Who's to say we haven't already?
Baron X
10-30-04, 07:48 AM
Hurley could not have supported that boyish figure on island food and he would have had to have had a couple of cases of batteries for his discman. Plus if he was a spy, he has not volunteered to go with anybody who has left camp to go do anything, wouldn't those be the people you want watched?
hmmmm but how do we know his discman even works?
JacksGirlfriend
10-30-04, 03:45 PM
It has to work because every week we have a song. I know because we also get the lyrics.
JacksGirl
Baron X
10-30-04, 03:53 PM
But we don't know that is what Hurley is listening to, the play it as a soundtrack to the show, we don't here it through his point of view, he could be listening to Tony Robbins for all we know. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
JacksGirlfriend
10-30-04, 03:57 PM
Well, I guess we all know what happens when you assume...
Anyway - there is definitely music... and lyrics. And if you watch the way his eyes light up, you can almost bet it's the same song. Look for the cute little tilt of the head. It just seems to be moving in rhythm with the song. Of course I wondered why he would like Willie Nelson.
JacksGirl
Baron X
10-30-04, 04:07 PM
I have some Willie in my collection, along with Etta James, AC/DC, Ray Charles, Nirvana, Bonnie Raite, Metalica, Patsy Cline, Black Eyed Peas (fergie is the bomb), Sawyer Brown, Def Lepard, Alabama, etc. You can never tell what some one will listen to. Hurly does where plaid why can't he listen to Wille, not that I think he was.
JacksGirlfriend
10-30-04, 04:23 PM
I love Def Lepard. Good dancing music. I hope Hurley has some. And AC/DC "All Night Long" really rocks. That should get those lazy bums to their feet.
JacksGirl
Baron X
10-30-04, 04:25 PM
Yes, excellent song, hard to resist. But I bet the extras would stand and stare.
JacksGirlfriend
10-30-04, 04:27 PM
Do you think "Leavin' on a Jet Plane" would get them to their feet?
JacksGirl
Baron X
10-30-04, 04:44 PM
Cruel
JacksGirlfriend
10-30-04, 06:29 PM
How about something by Jefferson Airplane then?
JacksGirl
Stu1961
10-30-04, 06:41 PM
When presented with two or more opposing theories - always choose the one requiring the fewest assumptions. Hurley was on the plane.
Maybe Hurley was in the first "occupied" bathroom that Charlie encountered in his mad dash through the plane. Perhaps with a stewardess :eek
JacksGirlfriend
10-30-04, 07:02 PM
Yes, Hurley definitely seems the type for that. He's a sly one.
JacksGirl
Baron X
10-31-04, 05:32 PM
Did you say a "slim" one?
JacksGirlfriend
10-31-04, 05:40 PM
It's always the guy with the great sense of humor that eventually gets the girl. We start out looking for the hunk, but usually discover later that we've wasted time and have been looking in all the wrong places. This stewardess clearly saw something others hadn't seen before. The great guy that is Hurley.
A sense of humor can overcome any obvious physical flaw. So see, Baron, there's hope for you yet...
JacksGirl
Baron X
10-31-04, 08:21 PM
But the hunk has more sex.
JacksGirlfriend
10-31-04, 08:23 PM
Yes... well, that's a given...
JacksGirl
FairSpirit
11-02-04, 04:47 AM
I really do not think Hurley could have been on the Island before the crash at all. Even if he could maintain a high weight from eating and not being active, I doubt it. He seems fairly active on the show, more than willing to help and all, so I don't see him as someone who has spent years and years sitting around on his butt.
From what he has mentioned anyway, he certainly was one of the folks on the plane.
Enchirito
11-02-04, 04:58 AM
Of all the cast that could have been on the island before the crash Hurley would be one of my LAST guesses.
laserbeak
11-02-04, 01:18 PM
Hurley is the comic relief. He's the nuetral guy who doesn't have a real opinion and he just intervenes in some conflicts to offer advice or reason. Then they'll have an episode where it's based around him and how he 'really' see's the whole island then then he'll die in a really tragic and heart stopping way. Well, thats what usually happens :P
Zambini Stardust
11-02-04, 04:35 PM
But we don't know that is what Hurley is listening to, the play it as a soundtrack to the show, we don't here it through his point of view, he could be listening to Tony Robbins for all we know.
Is that right? Seems to me that each closing song begins with the somewhat 'tinny' sound that you get from a headset (i.e., Hurley's point of hearing), then as the scene moves away from Hurley the sound becomes more robust (i.e., soundtrack). A nice segue from Hurley's headphones to the soundtrack.
EagleIFilms
11-02-04, 05:23 PM
Zambini's exactly right.
Enchirito
11-02-04, 06:27 PM
Yep. I always got the impression that we start out hearing from Hurleys POV then it blends into the soundtrack.
Personally, I find it kinda a corny way to end the show. Especially the way they did it in HotRS.
I wish they would have more serial style cliffhanger endings.
Although I suspect most people would hate that.
Baron X
11-02-04, 08:28 PM
It's Tony Robbins I tell you!!!
JacksGirlfriend
11-02-04, 08:52 PM
Tony Robbins sucks!
I want Def Lepard. And if I can't have them I want Bon Jovi.
JacksGirl
Enchirito
11-02-04, 10:17 PM
I get the feeling that Hurley only listens to drama-show-ending type songs so we probably won't be getting any Def Leppard. :(
What if one show he was just rocking out to some screamo hardcore or death metal? Wouldn't that be a great ending?
Baron X
11-02-04, 10:29 PM
Did you say death metal? Death! Death I say!!!
SupermanOX
11-03-04, 07:05 PM
Maybe Slipknot's "left behind" would be a good song for the show to end on.
GreenSpy
11-04-04, 03:01 AM
i doubt that Hurley was already there. He was so confused and lost in the pilot amoung the wreckage. Jack knew more of what was going on that he did. If he were stuck on the island already i'd think he would not have been to frantic--or he's just a damn good actor (the character i mean) and is making it all up.
theghostofwalt
11-04-04, 10:37 AM
just to add fuel to this fire- when jack told him that charlie had the flu, hurley replied, (roughly) "that sucks, youve been through a lot".
it stood out to me that he said "you" have been through a lot. nothing else has really happened to charlie so far, right? and they were ALL in a plane crash right....
azteclady
11-04-04, 10:58 AM
Er... deadpolarbear? Charlie was in the first cave-in, even if he did get out. Then, he was in the tunnel that collapsed while trying to rescue Jack.
That would be plenty, even without the plane crash, I think.
My take is that that is why the emphasis Hurley put on 'you'
Beto
haha! graspin' at straws, they are!
:p
Eriks Shorty Angel
11-05-04, 02:16 PM
I've never actually thought that one of the main characters has been on the island before. I thought if someone was, it was going to be someone we hadn't been introduced to yet. Although it would be interesting to see Hurley trying to explain to everyone why he hadn't told them he was previously on the island.
I agree with Baron. As far as i'm concerned Hurley was on the plane.
LOSTlover28
04-27-05, 12:17 PM
Hurley was on plane. There can not be any place where he got the CD player unless he is somehow related to the French women.
LOSTlover28
04-27-05, 12:19 PM
Hurley was on the plane. There can not be any place where Hurley could have gotten the CD player, unless he is connected to the French women some how.
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