View Full Version : All in favor of ditching all the extras
Baron X
10-29-04, 09:12 PM
They are useless. They don't talk. They don't swim. They stand by and idly watch as a man is beaten and nearly drowned in front of his child.
How would you like to see them go?
aznpunk97
10-29-04, 09:22 PM
well what do you expect, its a hour show. if everybody spoke, then it would take forever to get the story going.
plus if other ppl spoke, you would have to pay them more...
it would be safe, just to bring one or two of them out from behind and give them lines as the season goes on but giving 46 ppl lines is kinda too much?
We don't want this to become Third Watch where every week someone almost dies! (booooring...) I wouldn't mind seeing them die, but not as a stunt for ratings. Sorry to anyone that likes Third Watch. :)
Baron X
10-29-04, 09:52 PM
How come third watch stopped happening during the third watch but they did not change the name of the show?
No, we can kill off the extras in a nice and tasteful way, maybe some hemlocke
killbuckner
10-29-04, 09:54 PM
I would hope that as the season goes on they use the opportunity to add in some recurring characters to give some additional plotline possibilities. I am thankful for now they are leaving everyone else as anonymous or the story would be impossible to follow.
jekelish
10-29-04, 09:58 PM
i still find it interesting that we've got the possibility of a brand new character stepping forward every once in awhile...but if we don't at least MEET any of them soon, then hell yeah, let them get mauled.
Nope, don't want them to die--it reeks too much of getting voted off "Survivor"...
Good question about "Third Watch" Baron X. I worked third watch for 8 years and it covered 01:00 to 09:00--also known as the graveyard shift--the best time to work...
aka scout finch
10-29-04, 10:35 PM
I'm hardly aware of them, but that's me. I'd rather have them than not.
Baron X
10-29-04, 10:39 PM
well the longer they go with out introducing a new character the more strange it will seem when 6 months into it we meet this vital new person with so much to say and offer and yet no one ever mentioned him before.
jekelish
10-29-04, 10:42 PM
well, in fairness to the whole "suddenly this random guy has so much to say even though no one has mentioned him before"...the creators will probably just assume that the audience will understand that we dont see what's going on 24 hours a day on the island, and just because the main plotline hasnt involved the extras yet...doesnt mean jack, or kate, or sayid, or sawyer, or whomever, hasnt interacted with the other people.
but yes, i say either start introducing some of the others, at least in passing, giving them a line here and there, or just ditch them. :hat
lindsayjo85
10-29-04, 10:46 PM
Yeah, I agree. They should start introducing a few of the others. Give an extra a few random lines. Well, not random, but you know what I mean. Haha.
jekelish
10-29-04, 10:47 PM
no, i think you're onto something--give the extras random lines.
sayid: "we've got to find the signal!"
chuck the extra: "god i love bacon!"
:hat
chuck the extra: "god i love bacon!"
Hahaha :) Sounds like a great idea!
Baron X
10-29-04, 11:12 PM
or screaming from the tides "Ahhhhhhh! this salt water burns my roids!! Ahhhhhhhhh" then if we never see that extra again nobody would really miss him. :x
bowzerdawg
10-29-04, 11:13 PM
I think they will die one by one on the island or whatever because of either that creature or some freak accident caused by the mystery island. Maybe the “last survivor” will replace the “survivor” who speaks French in the last castaways. Anyway those castaway extras are probably meant to be “kill offs” to add realism as the show progresses like the extras in Star Trek.
Hmm ugly landscape? Heh.
Anyway, I think a few should die once in a long while but not too much...Just to add some more drama/action maybe?
Baron X
10-30-04, 07:37 AM
I think they should have a tote board and Jack can go over and change the count as they drop off. He has already expressed a desire to keep the count accurate.
Picture it, we could here a scream in the jungle followed by creature noises and Jack could walk over and update the board. Scratch out 46, write in 45. Oooh oooh he could have one of those boards that say number of days with out a horrible death counter. Coooooooooooool. That would also serve to keep any one who has missed a show up to date.
That would be a good dramatic way of showing how a person died...like for the one with Joanne(a?), they didn't directly show it but we obviously took the hints and figured that she died.
The following is from an 'Ain't It Cool News' interview with Damon Lindelof and J.J. Abrams:
AICN: Will more than 10 percent of the 48 “Lost” survivors perish before the series’ 13th hour? Is the high fatality rate the reason you didn’t name the series “The 48”? On the same topic, was there much freaking out when it was learned NBC aired a reality series titled “Lost” only three years earlier?
DL: More than 10% before the 13th hour? In other words, will FIVE people perish over the first half of the season? Not gonna answer that one. I will say this -- the herd will be thinned, but that doesn't mean people have to die.
AICN: I think my favorite thing about this concept may be the sheer quantity of survivors. Was 48 your idea or a network mandate?
DL: J.J. and I decided to have 48 people survive because we wanted to stock the show with as many possible story avenues as possible. As I recall, the network tried to talk us out of it. Greatest thing about the "other" castaways is that they can come forward for an episode, then melt back into the chorus. The popular thinking that their function is purely to be Red Shirts is grossly mistaken. In FACT... We've always loved the idea that one of our series regs goes traipsing off into the jungle with one of the castaways we've never seen before. The audience is thinking the poor yahoo with one line is gonna die a gruesome and horrible death, but then it's the REGULAR who gets wiped out. It will be done. Watch and see.
JacksGirlfriend
10-30-04, 11:26 AM
Baron: I love this! I voted for the 4-5 at a time - seems more interesting and so much more mysterious. We'll have so many more useless threads like "What happened to Tom?", "What happened to Tim?", "What happened to Tina?".
The popular thinking that their function is purely to be Red Shirts is grossly mistaken.
Well, if this is true, they better hurry up and make someone useful or I'm going to be wanting them to die. As it stands now they're a waste of air, food and fresh water. Someone could at least have a conversation about bacon. Or at the very least, pet the dog.
JacksGirl
Baron X
10-30-04, 01:43 PM
Thanks JG, they need to do something with them. I know we are trying to establish the regulars but it is sooooo noticeable when week after week they refuse to involve the extras even the most extreme circumstances, they watched on person die, granted I would not have attempted to swim out but I would have at least met them in the shallow water. Even the regulars did not help Jack until the water was at his ankles. If they don't want them in the extreme shots then show them doing every day domestic stuff; washing clothes, going through luggage, tending fires. At least show a regular sitting next to or walking with an extra. That way an introduction would not be so abrupt later.
JacksGirlfriend
10-30-04, 02:59 PM
I saw a woman sorting clothes with Claire, but she probably got paid extra for that.
JacksGirl
Baron X
10-30-04, 03:08 PM
that was like what? 3 episodes ago? what have they done for me lately?
JacksGirlfriend
10-30-04, 03:13 PM
They've eaten an entire boar, hogged all the fresh water, probably used all the sunscreen and insect repellent and have irritated Jack to no end, thus making him strangle one in the bushes. He's now wanted for double homicide. They are also possibly contributing to the death of a pregnant girl because none of them noticed she was sorting the rest of the clothes by herself and she got sick.
JacksGirl
(notice how I got boar and hog in the same sentence? - My brain cells are starting to spark again. I think it's irritation or maybe PMS.)
KatesBoyfriend
10-30-04, 04:12 PM
They can't start introducing a lot of extras because that would mean less spots in the future for new regulars. They aren't just going to promote the extras. The extras are extras because they cannot act.
Baron X
10-30-04, 04:14 PM
Expect to get a lot of nasty letters from the Extras Union Of America.:eek
JacksGirlfriend
10-30-04, 04:18 PM
KatesBoyfriend: It doesn't take much acting to chop firewood and then say "Hey, Doc, how's it hangin'?"
I think it's worth a few extra bucks just so later we can say "Hey, that's the incredibly sexy, friendly man that said hi to Jack last week." Then when he gets killed, we'll feel a little bad. As it stands, I'm ready to herd them all into the tent and search for more bullets.
JacksGirl
Stu1961
10-30-04, 06:54 PM
If they're going to re-populate, they'll need the extras genes to prevent creating even more "monsters".
I keep thinking there should be a third encampment in the trees like in Swiss Family Robinson.
JacksGirlfriend
10-30-04, 10:21 PM
Stu: I'll take my chances they create monsters. Monsters are better than a bunch of lazy heartless bastards that won't even lift a finger to help a pregnant woman or a drowning lifeguard. I think they might have let Rose wander off into the jungle. God knows what's happened to her. All I know is that magically appearing/disappearing ring on her necklace isn't going to help her if she's attacked by something. It isn't a cloak of invisibility!
I don't want these shiftless statues standing around on my time. Get busy, people!!! Chop firewood, gather nuts & berries, make bamboo blow darts (you're probably going to need them), build a stockade, go kill your own boar... Something!
When they're killed off and no one cares, they'll be sorry because purgatory is the destination for those half-dead in life.
And Baron: If I get any nasty letters from the Extras Union, I'll forward them to your email address. Take care of them for me, okay?
JacksGirl
How come you dont have "Make them change diapers" as a tormenting option?
I say chuck em!
Stu1961
10-31-04, 11:49 AM
Jacks' Girl:
Little do you realize that an aerial view of the beach will show that the extras are, in marching band fashion, spelling out "HELP", "SOS", and "DUDE" (Hurley's suggestion). The Extras also helped scavenge the plane, prepared and cooked the boar-ka-bobs, arranged the dead for the pyre, lit the fires, and are otherwise preoccupied digging sand-pit latrines. If they do anything of any more significance ... they'll have to show it ... and then they'll no longer be just an "extra".
Maybe they should start making wooden stakes and garlic necklaces because the only rational explanation (which I haven't read advanced yet) for the polar bear and the pilots death is ...
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Eskimo vampires! You heard it here first. http://www.freegolfinfo.com/forums/upfiles/smiley/all_coholic.gif
Baron X
10-31-04, 03:09 PM
Hey I just wanted the extras gone, I never said they could not act. I am sure many of them have fine credentials and many high school plays on their resumes. Why I bet they are all Master Thespians.
Eskimo vampires? Of course!! Why didn't I see that earlier?
JacksGirlfriend
10-31-04, 03:23 PM
Stu: I'm glad you've seen the worthless automotons actually contributing. Are they using the dog whistles I gave them while they march? The dog whistles could infiltrate radio signals that may be bouncing around on the island - you know, the ones pinballing off the geodome sky that covers the entire island. I'm hoping the signal alerts someone at the Black Rock installation. Once they send out some clones we can make these people do something constructive.
And Baron you're right: it takes a particular talent to fold and I'm sure they learned it while working on Fiddler on the Room. Some of those costumes were a little voluminous. Yes, I'm sure they learned to snap fabric while doing that. I may have been overly harsh concerning their acting skills. But I still want that sexy lumberjack.
As far as Eskimo vampires go - Do you really think Eskimos would have migrated this far south? The polar bear was just plain dumb. I'm leaning more toward vampires of the southern variety.
JacksGirl
Baron X
10-31-04, 08:04 PM
you said 'voluminous'.:lol
JacksGirlfriend
10-31-04, 08:10 PM
English major. I know big words - I just hide that side of me. This side of me is more fun. The other one can be painfully stuffy and who likes her anyway!
JacksGirl
Baron X
10-31-04, 08:27 PM
by hide do you mean under gallons of alcohol?
I to can speak with big words.
JacksGirlfriend
10-31-04, 08:32 PM
Gallons of alcohol do occasionally come into play, but not on a regular basis. Were you spying on me the other night?
JacksGirl
Baron X
10-31-04, 08:37 PM
Spying? No, not necessary. You are quite the exhibitionist.
JacksGirlfriend
10-31-04, 08:39 PM
Attention whore. It's been pointed out before.
JacksGirl
Baron X
10-31-04, 08:44 PM
'attention whore'? Okay, now I feel like a prude for going with 'exhibitionist'.
JacksGirlfriend
10-31-04, 08:49 PM
Hey - no actual clothes were discarded. The entire episode has been totally blown out of proportion.
I think...
JacksGirl
Baron X
10-31-04, 08:53 PM
Film at 11:15
JacksGirlfriend
10-31-04, 09:18 PM
Yikes! I was in my pajamas... and I don't think my hair was combed... and I might have needed some extra lipstick... how am I ever going to go out in public again?
JacksGirl
Baron X
10-31-04, 09:19 PM
Does that mean you are not going to work tomorrow?
railwaymadness
10-31-04, 09:20 PM
Do you ever need to go out in public again?
Plus, if you get all dolled up with makeup and a hat, nobody will recognize you from the film. :p
JacksGirlfriend
10-31-04, 09:27 PM
Railway: Good plan. I'll find a hat somewhere... maybe some dark glasses... and if I comb my hair, it might actually work.
Baron: No, I don't work on Mondays. I work Tues-Fri - 4 ten hour days instead of the usual. So Monday is play day! Meet you in the chat room. It will be PG to PG-13 rated so you're safe. I confine my R rated antics to after 7.
JacksGirl
Baron X
11-01-04, 12:39 PM
If an extra dies in the ocean and no one sees her, who gets her water?
JacksGirlfriend
11-01-04, 03:13 PM
I do.
JacksGirl
jekelish
11-01-04, 03:14 PM
if an extra dies and no one sees, does that mean Chuck gets her salary for the day?
:hat
JacksGirlfriend
11-01-04, 03:17 PM
Only if he does her share of the work. Thought you had to work today, Jek.
JacksGirl
jekelish
11-01-04, 03:19 PM
i AM working today, but i'm obviously not working very hard. i just wrote another bit of fiction about Chuck, if that gives you any indication of how bored i am.
GOD I love bacon!
:hat
JacksGirlfriend
11-01-04, 03:25 PM
I'm home today (cause I'm always home on Mondays) but I wish I had a job like the rest of you. After today, I won't be able to get on between 7:30 and 7:30. RATS! I will not survive.
JacksGirl
jekelish
11-01-04, 03:32 PM
i may as well be at home for the crap i'm doing...which is to say, not much crap at all. serious, who spends their time at work posting on message boards and writing fan fictions about Chuck the Extra?
:hat
JacksGirlfriend
11-02-04, 12:41 AM
What exactly do you do that you have all this free time?
JacksGirl
EagleIFilms
11-03-04, 04:50 PM
YOU'RE MARRIED TO BSSG???
I noticed your wife in the collecting firewood scene when I was wondering why they never really use the other survivors. She's the only one I've ever noticed!
EagleIFilms
11-03-04, 09:24 PM
Bastion, we call her Blue Striped Shirt girl. You should come into chat sometime. Can you post actual pictoral proof that that's her?
huckfynigyn
11-04-04, 01:48 AM
I know what you mean. They need to start bringing the extras forward and make this show a little more realistic rather than some white prepy clique club that seems more like a reality tv show. You have something good don't blow it. America is counting on you for good entertainment not something that tastes like 99 cent burger sale at MacDonald's:lol
supersuicidedoll
11-04-04, 04:28 PM
You cant kill them, the creators of the show needs the bodies..for the potential of introducing new characters..new storylines.
if they kill off too many..its going to be melrose place on a island.
EagleIFilms
11-04-04, 05:34 PM
Thanks for the info, Bastion. BTW, we're still calling her BSSG until we get an in-universe name. :)
LostinTrinity
11-04-04, 09:48 PM
bastion you can host your pictures at a free website photobucket.com :D
JacksGirlfriend
11-05-04, 02:21 AM
Guys!! I can't believe BSSG is married. I'm so sorry...
JacksGirl
walkingcarpet23
11-05-04, 02:24 AM
*sniff* Guess I just have to find someone new to be infatuated with...
if this show makes it for several seasons, as i hope it does, then they can bring in new people and new stories.
jekelish
11-08-04, 02:23 AM
how exactly did we discover that SBSSG is married?
JacksGirlfriend
11-08-04, 02:30 AM
Jek - Some guy named Bastion claimed to be married to her and said they lived in Hawaii. I saw the messages. I just went back through and all the posts have been "deleted". I have no idea what that means. Bastion said her name was Faye I think.
JacksGirl
jekelish
11-08-04, 02:32 AM
i'm going to label this one as "not exactly credible"...
so chewie, my friend, keep those dreams alive.
:hat
JacksGirlfriend
11-08-04, 10:35 AM
I'm with you, Jek. It's looking highly suspicious at this point. What was Chuck's take on the situation?
JacksGirl
MaisterPup
11-10-04, 12:57 AM
There may be something to what Bastion is saying. I just spotted a site called Lost Survivors: www.lostsurvivors.com (http://www.lostsurvivors.com) . Scroll down a wee bit and you'll get to a statement by the webmaster:
"My name is Paul Edney. I am just one of the background actors in the upcoming ABC TV series 'Lost'. I put up this website and it is dedicated to the background actors and actresses who play the roles of survivors of the plane crash in the show..."
Sure enough, if you scroll down to the section titled BACKGROUND CHARACTERS, you'll see a photo of the extras - all numbered and named for your convenience. #13 is a pretty female extra in a Blue Striped Shirt, and her name is given as Faith Fay.
M'Pup
Baron X
11-10-04, 07:03 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Thanks Pup cool site.
Since people seem to still be adding the same reasons to keep the extras placed here 3 weeks ago, I feel obliged to re-mention that the longer they wait to introduce a character or characters makes it that more unlikely that individual will have a strong enough personality to impact the others or the show. They have needs that are not being met fairly among all the survivors to introduce a character worthy of screen time next season would be very much a gimmick designed to boost ratings. But if a strong character whether he/she be physically gifted, an intellectual giant, more annoying redneck, speak less English, be very handsome or beautiful, extremely tall or very short were to be introduce after too much time passes, we would all be asking "where the hell was this person during the (insert favorite crisis here)!!!"
JacksGirlfriend
11-10-04, 10:27 AM
You're right, Baron. Steve and Scott need more lines now!
Eventually one of them will have a disaster. I will scream "Oh, my God, Baron, Steve is dead!" and you'll say "That wasn't Steve, that was Scott." I will feel bad about not knowing which was which and mutter an "oh."
They need to start bringing the characters in now, a few lines at a time, or at least some references like they did with Larry on Buffy. Over the years he went from background guy to Larry, the obnoxious football jock to finally having an episode where he admitted he was gay. After that, even in the background, you felt like you knew him. When he was slaughtered at graduation, I felt really bad about that.
If Scott becomes monster fodder, I want to feel bad and I certainly want to know who he was.
JacksGirl
EagleIFilms
11-10-04, 03:33 PM
Yup, there she is.
http://www.lostsurvivors.com/Lost-extras.jpg
Still no actual proof that Bastion knows her, but it is cool to have a name with the face, er, shirt.
morbius47
11-10-04, 03:41 PM
FYI - for those of you who haven't heard Scott/Steve are now referred to as Sceve until they develop individual personalities.
huckfynigyn
11-10-04, 08:31 PM
Great to see the extras get some attention, the unsong heroes, and blue collar workers who most people in this country can identify with. Sometimes too much atteniton is given to the main cast while those who work just as hard are fed scraps under the table. I'm thankful that someone out there has finally given the public viewers a face to the red shirts ( I think that's what you call them)? As far as BSG she is quite attractive!! I wonder if her personality is just as nice?
Good things happen to those who wait patiently and work hard
sing4themoment
11-10-04, 10:19 PM
OK, the extras are completely useless...they're just there to fill up some scenes...hence "extras". So sad so sad...
gillygorge
11-16-04, 07:24 PM
I voted for the dramatic eating of the extras. Sceve could stay...Sceve could be the dual survivor :evil
Gilly
JacksGirlfriend
11-16-04, 10:08 PM
With a few more lines, Sceve could have a bright future and possibly live.
JacksGirl
jekelish
11-16-04, 10:53 PM
for those who were wondering, in that picture of all of the extras, Chuck the Extra is not pictured because he was the one with the camera.
WOO.
:hat
prutzgurl
11-17-04, 01:04 AM
i voted..for the one or two a week.....i think that i would show that they are in a little danger and that the show isn't turning into a soap.......
railwaymadness
11-17-04, 03:26 AM
Thanks for clearing that up, jek. None of the guys looked quite right for Chuck and it was weighing on my mind.
Weighing, I say.
faithfay
11-17-04, 09:27 PM
Aloha from Hawai'i and the set of Lost. This is Faith Fay also known as BSSG. I wanted to thank everyone for watching Lost and taking such a genuine interest in the story line and characters. Now lets talk about the rumors I have gotten emails and phone calls about:
Married?
I currently reside in Hawaii, on the island of Oahu, and share a house with three eligible bachelors.
Blue shirt or Brown shirt?
My character finally found a shirt she liked after going through mounds of luggage for several episodes, ha. I am now dressed in a brown sleeveless shirt with my mid drift still exposed, wardrobes decision.
Speaking Soon?
We saw that two background characters have come forward and spoken, keep watching there is much more to come. The director and writers have made some interesting and wise choices. Being in demand is good, so let ABC know you are interested in my character being developed.
Actress or Artist?
I do both and you can see me featured on the film Tides of War, coming out in March and an upcoming episode of North Shore (yup I know, ok). I am an artist as well and show my art work in galleries across the country. Many of us on set work in more than one medium (acting, painting, music). Dom paints, Terry and Naveen sing and play guitar... My art web site is being updated with lots of new work but you sill can hit the site: faithfay.com
I think that covers enough for now. Keep watching and thanks again, faithfayfaithfay.com
JacksGirlfriend
11-17-04, 09:32 PM
Well, Ms. Fay, I speak for everyone when I say welcome. You have some very big fans here.
JacksGirl
star2954
12-01-04, 01:22 PM
I'm leaning more toward vampires of the southern variety.
LOL Me too JG I'm rooting for Lestat(of the Stuart Townsend variety) to show up one night and curl up with Kate... :hat And later Sawyer's stash of industrial grade sunblock goes missing in the night and we have new(very pale) extra running around :rollin
I voted killed off one or two a week, the only extra we need to keep is Chuck :smokin and maybe Lestat ;)
sing4themoment
12-06-04, 02:57 AM
I say they should build a raft and put all the extras on it, and then they never return
LostHorizon
12-12-04, 10:32 PM
Baron X said:
" I think they should have a tote board and Jack can go over and change the count as they drop off.He has already expressed a desire to keep the count accurate.
Picture it, we could here a scream in the jungle followed by creature noises and Jack could walk over and update the board. Scratch out 46, write in 45. ......Oooh oooh he could have one of those boards that say number of days with out a horrible death counter. Coooooooooooool. That would also serve to keep any one who has missed a show up to date."
I believe Something like that was done in the classic Japanese movie "Battle Royale", where Japanese schoolkids had to kill each other off on a deserted Island.
If that were to happen, I guess that would mean the Show will be on for at least two seasons.. :D
I said it before and I'd say it again ...
Chuck the Extra!
I'd rather have ugly faces breaking up the ugly background of that horrible paradise they call Hawaii:b
seriously..... I do think that they should get ride of at least half of them, i hate how they have almost thirty odd ppl out there that have no part of the story, just wandering around dazed and confussed.....mmmmmm dazed and confused:hat :lol
AdamCrew
09-01-05, 02:03 PM
Why is there no other option for this poll?:hat
Mr. Cluck
10-08-07, 11:12 PM
If we kill them all off, then what would happen to SBSSG/Faith Fay?
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