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Old 12-14-17, 08:44 PM   #31
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It's been repealed

https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/14/...rules-repealed
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Old 12-14-17, 11:32 PM   #32
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Re: Net Neutrality, and access

There's still a chance the vote could be vacated due to the irregularities with the public comments, but it will take a highly placed federal judge who has serious chutzpah and/or seriously cares.
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Old 12-15-17, 06:54 AM   #33
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I thought senators or reps had the power to cancel it?

I assume that Trump hired this clown to run the FCC?
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Old 12-15-17, 12:21 PM   #34
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Well, his rise is a little bit complicated. The FCC board is 4 seats, 2 chosen by each major party, and then the chairman is risen from those ranks by the administration currently in power.

So technically Pai was an Obama nominee, though he pretty much had to nominate the person Republicans wanted at the time. Trump picked him for chair out of the 4 when Obama's chair departed.

Assuming i understand and remember everything properly, which isn't necessarily a safe assumption.

And i didn't know that a Congressional figure could vacate the vote, that will give me a lot more hope if true because it would be an extremely popular move and i think politicians generally love that kind of thing.
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18 state Attorney Generals are suing the current administration's FCC over this issue.

Call your state's AG, ask them why they are not joining to sue the FCC over killing net neutrality.

Individual governors (see Washington) are already stating that they'll enforce Net Neutrality (for what it's worth, which isn't much once you cross state lines--unless it's a significant plurality of states).

There IS also a mechanism where Congress can kill this: the Congressional Review Act. The CRA only needs a simply majority in Congress to kill actions by federal agencies--like the FCC.

Currently, about 83% of the country wants access to the internet to be regulated as a utility; if we make enough noise, this bill can be killed.

Call/email/snail mail your elected representative, senator, governor, and all local officials, to tell them just how not okay you are with what Ajit Pai is trying to do.

The fight is not impossibly harder, but it is still not over.
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Old 12-20-17, 04:55 AM   #36
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https://gizmodo.com/the-looming-net-...&ICID=ref_fark
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Old 12-20-17, 04:57 AM   #37
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I don't have a link but I read an article yesterday that the removal of net neutrality could lead to more municipalities creating their own network infrastructures. What I found shocking was that some states made it illegal for municipalities to do that in their state and some municipalities were fighting it.

People who claim both parties are the same tend to ignore issues like this one, which show tremendous differences in who those parties choose to protect.
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The ACLU on three possible paths to solve the unholy mess that is now net access.
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Re: Net Neutrality, and access

I guess Congress is our best bet? That doesn't exactly fill me with confidence. It doesn't fill me with despair either, as even Republicans can often see the political value of making a move supported by such a vast majority of every constituency except ISPs.
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Funny how just last night i was complaining (again) to Mrs. Mo about the abysmal quality of writing being put out by people with graduate degrees in writing, and i had an epiphany: nobody gets into journalism because they enjoy writing anymore, they get into journalism to push their political agendas.

Back when we first heard grumblings about the "liberal media" it was true that some sources were a little biased, although there were conservative biases out there too, but it seems to me that those biased sources didn't represent the majority of news media. Nowadays it seems like there literally aren't any unbiased sources left. The closest thing we can find is international news from other countries, and often they have their own agendas to push too.

I remember my father being very upset when all the major media outlets were being bought up by bigger conglomerates. I understood why at the time, but i didn't imagine that we'd reach a point where there's literally nobody remaining who's interested in honest journalism for its own sake, much less so rapidly.

And then just now i read Frodo's post. Well said.
With apologies if this is dragging the thread on a more political direction that would be preferred, but to answer/rebut Mo's point: I don't believe any human being with deep knowledge of any subject can b unbiased about it. So yeah, some of the people I read for news stories are biased because of their qualifications (Sarah Kendzior, an expert on authoritarianism, or Mary Beard, an expert on Medieval history who fights daily to spread knowledge of the many people of color present, in Medieval times, in what is now modern day 'white' Europe, to name but two who get incredible pushback, up to death threats, for daring to back up what they say with proof and receipts).

Beyond that, there are many people who go into journalism for the truth, but do not get jobs in the industry for a variety of reasons. One, they are pushed out early (from misogyny to racism, the last weeks of 2017 we full of people speaking out about this). Two, the myth of a liberal media is...well, a myth. When pretty much all large media corporations are owned by ultraconservative people/corporations (hello, Sinclair Media! Hello, Rupert Murdoch! and so on and so on), there's a lot of right leaning content given precedence--and many liberal stories being killed by the powers that be at large publications.

I offer this link to a The Guardian piece for consideration.
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