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Old 05-19-17, 05:18 PM   #31
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Re: Mental Health (ASD, Depression, Anxiety, Bipolar, etc.)

For Christs sakes, stop assuming all my theorizing or making connections is due to dope, of ANY kind. My only vice these days is beer.

This pissess me off. (Forgive me if i misinterpret tge last few ppsts)
I mean do you all not read the news? Do you see how many people are trying to develop BCIs?
Do you not see what they can do?

"Scientists successfully achieve BRAIN TO BRAIN COMMUNICATION!"
OVER THE INTERNET*

and SUDDENLY the number of people with voices in their head, SKYROCKETS.

GET OFF THE DOPE PEOPLE

Neurons communicate via electric fields
BCIs READ electrical activity.
DARPAs Mem's technology measures quantum States, OF INDIVIDUAL NEURONS! ELECTRIC FIELDS!
Those States can he teleported into the quantum network created by the DOD/ DARPA
AN ENTANGLEMENT BASED INTERNET**

IT CANNOT BEEEE ANYMORE OBVIOUS.
This "mental illness" is becoming an epidemic!
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Old 05-19-17, 09:36 PM   #32
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I do not think anyone under the age of 25 should be on any type of antidepressant, really. Kids are too young to start messing with their brains, they aren't even done growing yet. Quite possibly all the kids need are some training on how to manage their symptoms themselves and potentially grow out of them or learn to control their thoughts and behavior. Pills are not always the answer...somehow we have lived thousands of years previously without any Zoloft, Abilify, Lexapro or anything else. And you know what? There were LESS suicides and diagnoses of depression and anxiety. It's mainly our surroundings and how life is today for our species, not much malfunctioning in our brains. IMO anyway. But I have mental health issues of my own so what do I know...I'm a rambling nutjob! Sad!
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Old 05-19-17, 09:40 PM   #33
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And yung, you sound somewhat like you may have paranoid schizophrenia. Have you ever given this thought? What you describe clearly not occurring, mental control via electrical fields on the internet? It's a big, scary leap from fermions and you don't sound very coherent or healthy to me if this really concerns you on some deep emotional level and affects your everyday life.
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Old 05-19-17, 09:56 PM   #34
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Re: Mental Health (ASD, Depression, Anxiety, Bipolar, etc.)

My father developed severe bipolar symptoms at the age of 61 following a series of mini-strokes. Prior to that, he exhibited no symptoms of mania or depression. Suddenly, he had tremendous mood swings where he would be so depressed that he would not speak for weeks. He was catatonic refusing to bathe or dress. Then he would enter mania so severe that it was simply not my father. He would get in fights with strangers, call me at 1 and 2 in the morning. Buy things online that no one wanted. He even attempted to kill my mother who he was convinced was plotting to kill him.

What got my father back was medication. As Mo pointed out, this is very difficult because each person reacts differently and the side effects can be severe. In my dad's case, he would find a medicine that would control some symptoms but then have severe side effects and end up off the medicine. My mom would routinely withheld medicines she thought gave him visible (and embarrassing to her) effects. I watched him go up and down and in and out of the hospital. So many drugs were tried. My mom would tell me how impossible it was to handle him during the extremes yet she would take him off the medication that seemed to help for her own reasons. It finally came to a head when he attempted to murder her and she called the police. The officer could see my Dad was not really going to kill anyone and he recognized the symptoms of mania. He baker acted my dad getting him into a state mental hospital. There he was assigned a much better neurologist that he previously had. This one had my father genetically tested. A specialist then reviewed his genotype and determined which families of meds would work. My dad has been on Ability for three years now and his life is radically better. They travel again. He is manageable. And his side effects are only slight.

Say what you want, but there are cases where medication is the ONLY answer.
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Old 05-19-17, 09:59 PM   #35
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I do agree with Mattie and others that antidepressants and other mood stabilizers are given out WAY too much.
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I've read studies that suggest mild psychosis and mental illness are beneficial to the species. Or else the genes responsible would have died out, etc. But rates of psychosis have maintained relatively the same throughout hundreds of years, suggesting there is something beneficial to them.

If you watch some TED talks, many authors will speak of believing that they inspire creativity, alternative ways of thinking (A Brilliant Mind) etc. and that the species needs them just as much as every other quirk out there that we try to shoo away.

The key is figuring how to make these traits work for you and in your careers/lives, not medicating them away or trying to bring them to 'baseline'. Evolution doesn't want that.
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I mean, doesn't it concern anybody else that suicide is a relatively new, increasing in number 'trend' for us? In periods of wartime, in Rome, in Greece, throughout the Great Depression even, WWI&II, the numbers weren't this bad. Hmmmm. Neither were the rates that we pushed these medications to our populations, which come with the attached risk of increased suicide. I'm willing to bet more than 75% of all people who kill themselves are taking medication of some sort for anxiety or depression.
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Say what you want, but there are cases where medication is the ONLY answer.
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I do agree with Mattie and others that antidepressants and other mood stabilizers are given out WAY too much.
Both of these things.

There are definitely some severely over-medicated conditions.

Anxiety and depression (or one or the other) run very deeply in my family. Mine is anxiety. At one point, when I was 18 and was having fairly severe anxiety attacks on the regular (not the colloquial "oh, I nearly had a panic attack!" but actual, physical-symptom "I think I'm dying" episodes), I had a doctor who thought I was also depressed (which, given that I was 18 and unhappy in general, and depression runs all through my family, wasn't an unreasonable guess), and put me on Zoloft.
It did not do right by me. At all. I felt tweaked out all the time, and couldn't sleep. When I told my doctor about how I could hardly sleep, I was given another medication (forgot the name of that one) to take at night on top of the Zoloft that was supposed to help me sleep.
It didn't, and I just felt even MORE crazy.

Eventually I just stopped taking all of it. A family member who also has anxiety, had a prescription for daily Ativan, and would give me some for emergencies. When I could feel an attack coming on, I would take an Ativan and 99 times out of 100, it would straight-up block the attack from happening at all.
At that point I was probably taking around 10 ativan a month.

Within a few years, by the time I was 22 or so (Hey, when I joined this forum!), I would take maybe 1-2 a month.

At this point, it's maybe 1-2 a year. Part of that is being mindful of what brings me to attacks, and trying to prevent before it gets started, or do non-med calming things to head it off before it gets bad.

Some things are totally do-able without meds.


And sometimes meds keep people alive, or keep them from killing/hurting other people.

I think going to either extreme ignores the wide variance of cases and the wide variance of meds.

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I mean, doesn't it concern anybody else that suicide is a relatively new, increasing in number 'trend' for us? In periods of wartime, in Rome, in Greece, throughout the Great Depression even, WWI&II, the numbers weren't this bad. Hmmmm. Neither were the rates that we pushed these medications to our populations, which come with the attached risk of increased suicide. I'm willing to bet more than 75% of all people who kill themselves are taking medication of some sort for anxiety or depression.
What historical sources are you using for suicide rates in ancient times?
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Re: Mental Health (ASD, Depression, Anxiety, Bipolar, etc.)

Mattie.

Just watch this.

https://youtu.be/rNRDc714W5I

Forget about ME.
I am not suggesting this is happening to myself, but I am more than aware of the recent advances in BCI technology.

Read my thread.
My hypothesis simply answers the sudden rise in these mental illnesses.
More and more people are complaining about voices in their heads
Technology answers it.
Read my thread. Watch the videos.
Read the comments
Do your own reasearch.
OPEN YOUR EYES

This shit IS occurring.
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Re: Mental Health (ASD, Depression, Anxiety, Bipolar, etc.)

This is a painful thread to read.

I'm not going into details, but my Sis said she would not talk to me again unless I saw a doctor and got help. This doctor, after about 5 minutes, prescribed me Zoloft.

Worst thing for me. I saw lightning out of the sides of my eyes, lost my balance (I could hardly get out of the shower) and was so afraid to drive.

It was not at all what I needed. Oh, it made me cry a lot, too.

I definitely think some people need psychotic meds (that sister) but it was not for me. After 2-3 weeks, those pills hit the garbage.

I was just going through a life change, and it made me angry how Sis demanded I do something like that.

Worst time of my life. But, if not for whatever that sister is taking, I'm sure it has saved people's lives. Long story, but true.
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