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Old 10-08-06, 05:23 PM   #1
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+ are the writers using PI as a direction to GO in ?

SPOILER WARNING> I GIVE AWAY MOST OF THE MOVIE PI..









Due to my math and research with lattices and such lately, I rented the movie PI.

the movie has been discussed here before, but I dont think the similarities have ever been pointed out like this.

PI's director Darren Aronofsky was once even scheduled to direct a LOST episode.

is it just me or is our show somewhat based on this movie ?


PI is about a mathematicians mad decent or better yet, downward spiral, into the patterns found within PI's infinite number sequence.

3.14159......

a VERY fitting title credits artwork image passes by...




and the movie begins..



vs











these are the main characters (max kohen) most prominate beleifs.

1. mathematics is the language of nature.
2. everything in the universe can be represented and understood through numbers
3. if you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge,
therefore there are patterns everywhere in nature.
(he stares at some trees during this thought, point taken. the growth of branches etc...)


I see this shot in LOST as comparison



another example of his is the cycling of disease epidemics
(somewhat like the VALENZETTI equation predicts?)
he even mentions sun spot cycles..

his hope is to find the pattern in stock markets
(with the help of his computer named EUCLID)

we even see this shot quite a lot..



vs



same with this one...
../


vs




& oddly enough we get to look at the number 108 during the computation of stock market info the system is going through..









now meet the main characters Numerology friend from a cafe..

LENNY !!



vs
...




Lenny is also jewish but much more religious than Max.
soon after meeting max, he mentions the kaballah,
(a topic mentioned a few times in my quantum awakening thread by other posters who see the similarities.
it's all gnostism, the pursuit of knowledge, a girl even mentions that to max in the film about his work..)



we notice max has a problem, he seems to have a form of nervous attack

& he self medicates...











Max visits an old mathematician teacher of his.
they often meet to talk about max's work and play "go"
(which seems a lot like our own backgammon reference)



vs





& max seems to be a little crazy and haunted by hallucinations..




vs



later lenny introduces max to the world of Hebrew and Numerology.

the use of aleph seemed fitting to me due to the work of gregory chaitin and others in the field of metamathematics and computer language.






lenny uses it to show how the hebrew alphabet is also math based.
each letter links to a number.

we see how the numbers for mother and father, add to equal the numbers for child.

then lenny talks about the garden of eden, it equals 144
and the tree of knowledge which is found within the garden = 233


Max immediately picks up on them to be fibinocci numbers.

if you divide 144 into 233 the result apporaches "theta"
the greek symbol for the golden ratio.

the golden spiral.

it can be found wherever there are spirals.



or..






later we learn that the hebrews are searching for a pattern with 216 numbers, it is apparently the true name of god.



vs




this is when I realized, our 108, is half of 216, and it may have something to do with our TWO MONSTERS,
an idea which many seem to share.
(in my theory, its the user and the awakened system, they became two halves of one being, a new god)


max's teacher friend eventually caves and mentions that before his stroke, he was also obsessed with PI.
and that his computer also found the string of 216 numbers as a pattern, & it AWOKE, then crashed when it spit out the numbers.


it became self-aware at the moment of learning the 216 sequence.
aka : the name of god.


so what if our system awoke this same way, plus some futher details like the n-dimensions and the number of qubits created during the lattice scalar field effect.



using the fibinocci sequence Dharma created the perfect sri yantra lattice...


& now, after the incident...the numbers are used to call the "half" of the god back, to confine it using all the abelian info I have found linked to our numbers.


108 is half of gods name in a way.


there is much more of this movie to tie in, but I thought this was a pretty good start.



I plan to eventually venture into the realm of metamathmatics and inifinte sets...

I wish to explore more Pythagorus too, he is how the movie PI begins.
the golden ratio was his discovery, and it was his beleif the universe was made from information.

as is our lost world, or at least..

the horses, daves and dead daddies.



ps.. thnx to richardstone for finding the screen cap I needed..
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Old 10-08-06, 05:37 PM   #2
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Uh...... no!
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Old 10-08-06, 05:48 PM   #3
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dude, I think you would even love this movie..

use a little , then watch it.

the ending is pretty messed up too



DONT RUIN THE ENDING IF YOU PLAN TO WATCH IT !!
Spoiler: ...the ending.


and I believe it can be tied to my notion of dumping ones memory.

clearing the maxwellian demon.


and now, they are just trees...


at least, that's what I got from that moment

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Re: are the writers using PI as a direction to GO in ?

PI was a great movie. We know that TPTB are fans since they asked Darren Aronofsky to direct an episode (that fell through, but it would've been cool).

Interesting analysis Yung.
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thnx hurley.

I loved the film too, it seemed to resonate with lost shots.

tptb sure did take a lot of darrens use of angles and cuts.
the whole desmond sequence in the hatch was very aronofsky'sh.
moreso when he shut off the lights and radio etc.
it was very fast paced, just like D.A's own style.


another familiar thing popped up in the film.




although not seen in lost yet (unless this was it! left bottom corner)


ETA.. from the FINALE
I GOT MY DUAL TETRAHEDRON, thank you DARLTON *




the two triangles keeps popping up in my research.
most times its represented as two tetrahedons merged together..
and its used for "quantum awakenings".


and back to spirals too..

(there IS something going on here !, and I am beginning to feel like max too)

Quote:
The Spiral Path (A)
The universe in its movement toward Vega causes the planetary orbits to appear as a series of interlinked spiral paths. The interaction of the universe with man is symbolized by the interlinked triangles of the Star of David or Vishnu's Seal.

To speed this evolution man must balance the mandala of his total psyche as depicted in the combined glyph of the Circle and the Cross. The birth of Christ-consciousness occurs when the Lower Self successfully integrates its consciousness with that of the Higher self. The preparatory steps involve the integration of the energies of the polar opposites in the psychic mandala. The four quarters of the mandala represent the four triads in man and the four phases of the lunar month
(fruity source, but look around the internet, a lot of people are talking about this shape)

its not just me.


BTW... how the quantum computer fits..

max later gets a supercomputing chip for free from the government..

a "mecca" chip, apparently state of the art.. (he he, look how big it is ! cmon get with the ages !)




our supercomputing device, is helium3 and lattice based.

a superfluidic superconductor made from fermions, capable of becoming solid due to the pauli principle.

but thats another thread
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Interesting analysis, yung. I am not familiar with the film, and probably will not get much opportunity to watch it soon.

I am keen to learn more about your introduction of the numbers 216 and 108. I have read elsewhere in T&S about the idea of there being two incomplete, seperated halves of an entity or spirit on the island, yet this is the first time I've seen a reference to 216 wrt 108 and that 216 is an alter name for God. Can you explain how 216 is the true name for God?
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Interesting. The connection concerning the possibility of the Lost numbers predicting things like probability definitely tie into PI as well.
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Re: are the writers using PI as a direction to GO in ?

Yeah, nice one Dane.

I wonder if our numbers could represent some kind of pattern in relation to how events on the island have happened and/or will happen?

We know they were used to contain the EM energy in the Swan, but perhaps they contribute to, or are solely a patternable set of numbers that act to drive the dynamics of the island.
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Interesting analysis, yung. I am not familiar with the film, and probably will not get much opportunity to watch it soon.

I am keen to learn more about your introduction of the numbers 216 and 108. I have read elsewhere in T&S about the idea of there being two incomplete, seperated halves of an entity or spirit on the island, yet this is the first time I've seen a reference to 216 wrt 108 and that 216 is an alter name for God. Can you explain how 216 is the true name for God?


the 216 being gods name may be part of darrens awesome imagination.

I have been looking for other references, but none so far..


anyone know if there is some truth to this idea ?
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