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Old 10-24-17, 09:06 AM   #11
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Eh. Ready to stop watching. Negan storyline could have been solved already. They had no problem taking out the sentries on top of the buildings. Sniper shot to Negan and be done with it.

And now we have flashforward / vision type of story telling going on? :jumpship:
All of last seasons was simply a setup for this season. They are in no rush to conclude storylines. there's no guarantee Negan will be resolved by the end of this season to be honest.
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Old 10-25-17, 03:49 AM   #12
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The ratings are still going down

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Old 10-27-17, 02:43 PM   #13
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This show is terrible.
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Old 10-27-17, 03:07 PM   #14
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I think it's safe to say that Negan's popularity hasn't translated to TV. Several sites have posted things they think the show needs to do this season and many want Negan killed off.

My opinion is that the comics took a nosedive after the Governor arc was completed. If they insist on sticking to the comics there will be more dissent imo.
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Old 10-27-17, 04:24 PM   #15
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Negan is played by a great actor, he is doing a tremendous job IMO. The early writing of him was great, made him really unlikable but at the same time you chuckled at some of the things he said. It's the unrealistic scenarios they put these characters into and have them come out unharmed it what is killing the show IMO.
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agree, nothing wrong with JDM's acting - quite good (recommending watchmen for his acting, very good). it's the dialogs and goofy situations they put him in that need fixing.
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Negan is played by a great actor, he is doing a tremendous job IMO. The early writing of him was great, made him really unlikable but at the same time you chuckled at some of the things he said. It's the unrealistic scenarios they put these characters into and have them come out unharmed it what is killing the show IMO.
The problem is, has been and will continue to be Scott Gimple. You guys know I am all about ripping him, but his contrived writing chioces are the issue.

The Glenn dumpster scene. The Negan monologuing and not getting shot scene last epi. Oh, and they shot out windows (what the literal hell??) instead of killing Negan--which Rick said he was there to do./ And I could go on and on. Fake, contrived drama, and this show simply doesn't need it.

I think the comic arcs are great. And I know they have to drag them out a bit. But Gimples contrivances are the problem. The real problem.

I love Negan by the way. So hateable, yet smug and hilarious. But ready for him to take a bullet.

Anyway, my guess is that the Saviors arc wraps mid seasonish, and then the next big bad group rolls in. But maybe walkers will become a threat again and actually kill a cast member. Miss those days.
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why is gimple like that? he doesn't seem dumb, but even he's gotta see all the silly plotholes the rest of us can see.

so who all is dressing up as negan for halloween????
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As someone who hasn't read the comics, I've never found Negan compelling. Perhaps simply because of all the reasons you collectively suggest. Hard to say. Only thing I know is that the sinister things Negan does at times don't seem to line up with the way the character is played. I am a fan of JDM too, so no need to preach his merits at me. I get it.

Negan's laughing/joking side, when it coincides with his execution of evil, doesn't doesn't seem as though it is coming from an evil character, like Heath Ledger's Joker or Christopher Walken in, well, anything he's in. I've never felt the same sort of menace from Negan; JDM's acting comes off as though he's acting. Disingenuous. False notes. Etc...
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As someone who hasn't read the comics, I've never found Negan compelling. Perhaps simply because of all the reasons you collectively suggest. Hard to say. Only thing I know is that the sinister things Negan does at times don't seem to line up with the way the character is played. I am a fan of JDM too, so no need to preach his merits at me. I get it.

Negan's laughing/joking side, when it coincides with his execution of evil, doesn't doesn't seem as though it is coming from an evil character, like Heath Ledger's Joker or Christopher Walken in, well, anything he's in. I've never felt the same sort of menace from Negan; JDM's acting comes off as though he's acting. Disingenuous. False notes. Etc...
Agreed DSOTM.

This is totally how I feel. Just don't buy how Negan ever got to where he is without someone taking him out at some point.

I mean, what does he bring? What does he offer the group? It's not like he's technically gifted. He's no doctor so he's not healing anyone. He hasn't exactly come across as a supremo strategist either, so why have his legion of followers put up with his BS for so long, and let him steal their wives and burn their faces blah blah blah without someone taking him out??

It's just not credible.

I also like JDM, but I really dislike his attempt at the menacing, psychotic laugh as a prelude to commiting some atrocity or other.

So, after only the first epi I'm feeling pretty flat about this season already. I feel like I already know how it's gonna play out and what the writers are gonna do to try and ramp up the tension. Yaaaawwwwwn!!

And please, for the love of God, no more firing a hail of bullets at Negan and they all miss!!!!! This is also just not credible even the first time it happens, but repeatedly?? Really??
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