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made Damon Lindelof say "Fermions" on TV :P
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Re: QH/Homoplasmates AND the numbers??????
friday night drunk tesseract magic cube square thing..
just for kicks... CS might like this...
too bad each "line" doesnt point to each number once...
maybe each point would internally on an angle ?...
(think of the tesseract beginning small, as a singularity or something.
as it grows, it eventually intersects with the numbers in the magic cube)
dont flame me, I'm just screwing around..
besides, tesseracts look neat in 3d.
here is four panels at once.
x,y,z and perspective.
opps, I mean perception.
he he jk
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031006, 11:47 PM

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Re: QH/Homoplasmates AND the numbers??????
Yung, I tried to do something like this some time ago but did not have the software to pull it off.
Do this just to see what you get (this is not a leading question  I have no clue).
Start with the 6 panel unfolded box configuration. Number each panel "connect 4" fashion from 1 to 42. Fold it up into a cube. Connect the numbers between opposing panels.
Do the connecting lines intersect? Do they form any sort of shape?
N.
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031106, 12:48 AM

#113

made Damon Lindelof say "Fermions" on TV :P
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Re: QH/Homoplasmates AND the numbers??????
I will get to it, I did mean to that way too.
you came straight to mind.
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031106, 01:58 AM

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Re: QH/Homoplasmates AND the numbers??????
Quote:
I am looking for a detailed world map with latitude and longitude, so if anyone finds one please post it here.

I had this bookmarked from way back when. It's the best one I ever found. click to enlarge
world map with latitude and longitude
Here's a nice link from my wrinkle in time thread Seeing into four dimensions It's an interactive applet that allows you to play with different shapes to help understand four dimensions.
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031106, 02:25 AM

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made Damon Lindelof say "Fermions" on TV :P
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Re: QH/Homoplasmates AND the numbers??????
nice !!
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& here is neils idea so far.
I have yet to import the tesseract.
but with the shape of the big dipper, and the way the tesseract protrudes through the other one.. who knows, I'll try it soon.
ETA, no luck yet. ( but WOW does it messup ones head staring at a fourdimensional tesseract/cube !)
ETA, I can rotate things too..
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031106, 12:42 PM

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Re: QH/Homoplasmates AND the numbers??????
Yung you do realise the Lost creators are using you as 'extra' memory for their random LOST trivia soft ware programs. You MUST clone yourself so that we can use all your 3D capabilities. We only talk about the fourth dimention you go out and give it shape....
PS: Simetrical shapes (like the unfolding of a butter fly). Like Niel I tried this with limeted success, making a few interesting shapes  just like how we connect stars to make symbols... thus we used those symbols to remember systems and reference points to navigate by. The numbers then just reference points to something, everything.... the island....
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031106, 07:19 PM

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Re: QH/Homoplasmates AND the numbers??????
Yung in those cubes you are posting
I've noticed the symmetry is never isometric nor bilateral ( in the numbers grid), there is always traslation involved, and I think that the translation between them is caused by parallel reflections like this:
On the Dharma logo the iching trigrams are opposites facing each other, much like in your cube one side is facing its inverse.

In this site holodynamic compression is discussed: http://www.maui.net/~shaw/celes/holoent.html
 Could it be a pseudoscientific way to compress a living creature from 3d into 2d or even 1d?
 And could that method be used for time travel, space travel, interdimensional travel, etc...?
Quote:
One of these books was "The Holographic Universe" by Michael Talbot. It was an amazing book. The book synthesizes theories about the holographic nature of the universe in a framework that attempts to explain much of the mysteries of the mind, paranormal phenomenea, and metaphysics. The basic idea behind the book is that the universe has a holographic structure where, like in a hologram, every part contains the information of the whole. Furthermore, in this connectedness to the whole time and space are nonlocal, that is remote events are connected to each other and the future, past and present as well. Mind(which is also connected to the universal hologram or "superhologram") acts as a type of interpeter of the superhologram to create what we know as "everyday reality". Sometimes we can get glimpses into or even affect the underlying superhologram and that is when "miraculous" or supernatural events seem to occur.

And I am sure that from this article: http://www.savefile.com/projects/948848
you could draw much more than me.
INformation in the holographic universe.
THeoretical results about black holes suggest the universe could be a giant hologram.
By Jakob D. Bekenstein.
Scientific American February 2004 #29
Quote:
Claude E. Shannon, who introduced today’s most widely used measure of information content: entropy.

This is almost literally what happens on "A Wrinkle in Time" while the children "wrinkle" across the universe.
Quote:
This result means that two ostensibly very different theories—not even acting
in spaces of the same dimension—are equivalent. Creatures living in one of these
universes would be incapable of determining if they inhabited a 5D universe
described by string theory or a 4D one described by a quantum field theory of
point particles. (Of course, the structures of their brains might give them an overwhelming
“commonsense” prejudice in favor of one description or another, in
just the way that our brains construct an innate perception that our universe has
three spatial dimensions;

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031206, 05:00 AM

#118

made Damon Lindelof say "Fermions" on TV :P
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Re: QH/Homoplasmates AND the numbers??????
things discussed in this very thread, may have just been helped along by someone else..
posted by KF2...
http://www.losttvforum.com/forum/sh...&postcount=231
it really helps to show things just may be just as deep as I have proposed.
EVEN THOUGH IT MAY BE FAKE.
MEANING, the creator may have worked backwords,
using our numbers to generate the Polynomial equation.. I dont understand it, But Polynomial struck a cord.
especially regarding euclidian space/ vectors and the numbers.
my follow up to the above sudden flash of info..
http://www.losttvforum.com/forum/sh...&postcount=241
Quote:
so maybe I was right....
buddy used a type of polynomial I cannot find elsewhere but..
ShawBasho Polynomial: ??? it only shows up for the LOST tv threads ?
(Basho was a taoist poet ? and there are tonnes of Shaws) its fake.
HOWEVER..., it may have merit.
Polynomial
In mathematics, a polynomial is an expression in which constants and variables are combined using only addition, subtraction, and multiplication. (4x4x4x4x8x8x8x8x8x8x8x8x15x15xetc..as I did already)
More advanced examples of polynomials
Also in linear algebra, the characteristic polynomial of a square matrix encodes several important properties of the matrix.
Matrix (mathematics)
(Redirected from Square matrix) (<I BET THIS LINKS TO MAGIC SQUARES AND SQUARE TIMES CUBE!)
ETA.SEE ALSO: Array, Magic Square, Matrix, Rectangular Matrix, Square Array.
For the square matrix section, see square matrix.
In mathematics, a matrix (plural matrices) is a rectangular table of numbers or, more generally, of elements of a ringlike algebraic structure. In this article, the entries of a matrix are real or complex numbers unless otherwise noted.
Matrices are useful to record data that depend on two categories, and to keep track of the coefficients of systems of linear equations and linear transformations.
For the development and applications of matrices, see matrix theory. (not Niels matix idea)
A matrix can be identified with a linear transformation between two vector spaces.
NOW IT GETS FAMILIAR AGAIN, IF YOUVE BEEN READING MY THREAD>
If we consider geometrical vectors and the operations that we can perform upon them, the two most important ones being vector addition and scalar multiplication, together with some natural constraints such as closure, associativity, and so on, we arrive at a description of a mathematical structure called a vector space.
Vector (spatial)
This article discusses vectors that have a particular relation to the spatial coordinates. For a generalization, see vector space.
In physics and in vector calculus, a spatial vector is a concept characterized by a magnitude, which is a scalar, and a direction (which can be defined in a 3dimensional space by the Euler angles). Although it is often described by a number of "components", each of which is dependent upon the particular coordinate system being used, a vector is an object with properties which do not depend on the coordinate system used to describe it.
A common example of a vector is force — it has a magnitude and an orientation in three dimensions (or however many spatial dimensions one has), and multiple forces sum according to the parallelogram law.
A spatial vector can be formally defined by its relationship to the spatial coordinate system under rotations. Alternatively, it can be defined in a coordinatefree fashion via a tangent space of a threedimensional manifold in the language of differential geometry. These definitions are discussed in more detail below.
Euler discovered quadratic reciprocity and proved that all even perfect numbers must be of Euclid's form..
it connects to everything I was saying...
the numbers do alter space using vectors !
and this was done by someone else, from another approach.
and people didnt think the answers would be deep.

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031206, 05:38 AM

#119

made Damon Lindelof say "Fermions" on TV :P
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BTW LACE, what was with that link ?
phili K dick ?
quantum hologram ?
wtf ?
when was this stuff posted there ?
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031206, 05:56 AM

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Re: QH/Homoplasmates AND the numbers??????
I had that scientific american issue for a while, the one about the holographic universe.
I just thought you might find it useful.
It ties perfectly with all the speculations based on "A wrinkle in time" and hypercubes.
Philip K. Dick is a big influence for me.
Blade Runner was my favourite movie for a long while.
Then I learned about Valis, constantly whispering us messages.
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