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Old 12-26-06, 11:15 PM   #1
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+ YUNG23s all in one place MAP THREAD

after many requests, I have decided to start a new map thread to showcase my LOST island work without all the clutter.






my interactive 3d map hosted at BlackRock.nl (thanx to quantion)
http://www.blackrock.nl/content/view/22/40






THE BIG PICTURE MAP
I have placed some of the known locations on this map,
& I will continue to update this one periodically as I work on it.
UPDATED WITH THE NEW BDM



according to this overlay, my othersville placement was pretty good !

& the HYDRA was dead right
as it has been for years.



UPDATED MAP : MARCH 2009



HOW WE KNEW THE LOCATIONS

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in NUMBERS
sayid points to the dark territory.

"you should know danielle resides here..
sayid points to the map..

"shannon translated it, it means the dark territory"


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much later in Season 3, sayid marks the fake camp location...
posted by truff in my OG3d map


yung - here's the best cap I could find so far of the shot last night of Sayid marking
what I think is the location of the Others fake camp on Rousseau's map:




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my older 3d map thread (where most of these images came from)
3D MAPS
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THE MAPS and my beginnings with them


we first saw the maps in SOLITARY, inside Danielles shelter where she held Sayid.



I knew the map needed to be flopped due to the writing on the map and the shape of the mountain shown



this gave me the basic shape of the island in 2d.
next I imported it in a 3d program capable of adding height.



this was my first 3d island posted as an overhead image, rendered in bryce.


then rendered from a perspective view, altering textures in bryce, this is where the fun began.




My first map thread was an attempt to use this new map as a reference to where the losties may have crashed.
okay guys, theorize, where's camp ?

after much speculation and debate between a few of us original lost map makers
we ended up with camp on the southwest coast




this is my quick modelling of the camp on the island.







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THE SIDE VIEW PROBLEM

I discovered a slight problem soon after trying to merge the maps into a ficticious yet logical island.
The side view map did not fit with the overhead map from earlier.
it shows a big mountain, blocking everything behind it

















the entire island is hidden behind le crater according to the sideview....

this was my take on how the map should have looked




on 07-30-2005, 11:53 PM #141
I edited the ABC map to better illustrate the problem

Quote:
very roughly, the map should have looked like this..
if this big mountain is le crater...

>
the areas I drew are the two very distintive mountain ranges... le plateaus
& the triangle island should also be further east..

ANOTHER SOLUTION TO FIX THE MAPS.
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THE MISSING ISLETS
this thread dates back to 2005, I had a theory the others would be located on a separate small island.
http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=11266


Quote:
we have all seen the main map in season one.. episode title : SOLITARY
(notice, no islets (small islands) south of the island, by the crater)


this is from when Sayid is going to steal them.. same ep.

_______

then we saw more map in another episode..
Sayid had noticed when he overlapped the 3 maps, they fit together, kinda showing the location of something..

episode title : SPECIAL..
exactly 9.47 minutes in, Sayid overlaps the maps.

Quote:
[Shot of Sayid spreading out maps.]
Sayid
Once I realized these equations were coordinates, latitude and longitude, I assumed the French woman was trying to determine the location of the island. But it was incomplete, the notations fragmented.
Shannon
Except for the fish song.
Sayid
MmHmm.
Jack
The what?

Sayid
But when I laid the pages down like this [Sayid lays the maps on top of each other revealing a triangle]
I realized it wasn't showing the location of the island. I think it's a location on the island. Specifically, here.
Jack
So where are we in relation to the triangle?
Sayid
Well, the map is hardly in scale, so I don't know.
Jack
We're not even sure it's a map of this island, are we?
Sayid
We're not, no. But this may be the transmitter sending out the distress call. And it's power source.

Quote:
This is when I noticed the oddity of "LES TROIS ILOTS" on one map..(three little islands)
and but not the other.. you can see it coming in from top frame..


the last map overlapped, is the corner from this one...

and you can clearly see the same main islet with the triangle around it.
and there are many islets shown on this map...
"les trois" around the main one.. and a few more to the south west of the island..
this whole scene is the southern/eastern side of the island..





now this one spoke words on where the piece fit..




here is where I ended up putting the side view map..




and an earlier approach I had done kinda shows where the other islets would be,
and the boat... a shipwreck.. whos? we dont know.. not danielles.

(her's must have been the ship seen by the "premiere camp")

maybe the others have fixed it by now and used it to get walt..
it is my bet. the others are here.
the degroots others. the ones in charge. better off at least.

then season three... we see this shot
(I had called it !)

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LOCATION OF OTHERSVILLE

this is my guess on where the othersville should be

most of us map makers have the LOSTIES camp in the lower south/western corner of the island by the crater.

I dont think the others are in a crater, nor are they near it.
they seem to be behind the end of a chain of mountains..



so I dont think that tiny little lonely hill on the right is part of a crater.
its just a lone formation along the edge of the island.

the left hill is one of the fishbone looking hills that desends from the plateau of the mountain range..
which ends near the centre of the screen, pointing out the the bay on the other side,
right beside the pennisula I now assume the tail crashed near.





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FROM SEASON THREE EPISODE 1..
the others watch as 815 breaks up in the air.
backs facing northeastish...


as the plane goes from right to left.. (northeast to southwestern)



southwesternish more.. the tail falls and ends up crashing on the northern penninsula.


now they are looking southwesternish to where the fuselage landed
(this image seems to be more southish btw, we are looking more direct at the mountain range)



still looking south westernish (but the camera begins to pan to face southwesternish)



and south westernish still (as the camera backs up to the north eastern edge)

south westernish

south westernish


= south westernish.
(mostly westish, but there is some southern angle to it.)



=


the red dots are where the plane pieces fell, the green is where the fuselage should have fallen, but its pretty close imo.
we cant expect perfection.
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MORE ON THE LOCATION OF OTHERSVILLE.

I had also used the shot itself to find the location to the best of my ability.

this is me importing the image into Zbrush2, in order to line up my 3d map with the capture.











now zooming out to show where it makes the most sense placed..






= othersville is on the NORTHEAST section of the island.

IMO

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THE LAYOUT OF OTHERSVILLE


Television had attempted to do the layout of othersville..

Quote:

so I did it in 3d, I had wanted to do it earlier, but TV really inspired me.











(the camera is facing south west'ish)


If I am right with this, there are 23 houses in othersville !

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325 FOUND ON THE MAPS

it may not mean anything, but I also found 325 on the maps.
(ben told Michael to take a heading of 325 to find rescue)



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HOW MUCH THE LOST ISLAND RESEMBLES OAHU (where they film)

ETA, you'd figure they would make use of the similar background scenes..
ie landmasses, crater edges...





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ONE SOLUTION TO THE SIDE VIEW HILL PROBLEM
(done long before season three even began)


MOVE THE CRATER..changing the map, but the map maker could not have been perfect.





to get even close to the side view map, I had to cheat the size of le crater..











It looks like this map shows only one mountain mass,
so they have to be wrong about it
it should look like the above shot from this angle,
but the two plateaus are missing



from SEASON THREE...


ETA. now thats interactive television !

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FARCRY

I imported the map into the farcry engine and can now venture around the island, on foot, in a boat, jeep, or paraglider.








Quote:
here are some of my farcry level images..
(the engine does all the graphics work, all I do is edit it a little)

a 1024 pixel sized map is too small for a lost island.
(I need more ram to make this work in scale)

but the trees and all look pretty cool.
I havent gone into all that much detail based on it being the wrong size.




____
this one is looking from the islet westernly toward the centre of the island, "le crater" is on the left.

in the show the crater is a lot more central, but there is a problem using the side map with the top view.
as most should know by now. (if they follow this thread)
____
here it is from further back behind the islet.


____
and from higher up in the same area..
(this is south of the island)




____
here it is from the east side, you are now looking head on toward the landmass on the right in the image above.
this area is the dark territory, I even put a radio tower on the mountain.






_____
now further up the east coast.. othersville.
remember, the island is too small to use. this is just a little preview for now
the land needs to be twice as big.




____
now over the valley, toward the river path between the northwestern mountain range, out to danielles premiere camp.
(IF she drew "premiere camp" on the map)






____
now facing where we just came from. we are now on the west side looking east toward the islands northern end.
the pala ferry may be here, as well as the fake camp.
and four toes, and the hole in the rock. all should be down by the beach I made.
but like I said, its too small to be our island.




_____
now we are panning down the west coast to the south western beach camp and crater area..




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now we are on the top of the crater, looking down at the first camp, where the fuselage fell.


_____
and now, we are looking from the crater toward the centre of the island, between le plateaus.
here I am standing on the hydra islet (according to my placement of it anyway)
that is the alex islet on the right by the islands edge (the island is MUCH larger, but gets clipped by fog)




then here I am standing on the alex islet, looking back at the hydra..
the scale just seems better.




UPDATE.

I have tried to get a better look to the some of the main mountains in my Farcry level..
I am aiming for the jurassic park/ kualo valley backdrop. forget the textures so far..






Update.. I will remove some of these as detail improves..






& this is the beginning of my island field.. just getting an idea of how things will look for now.




here is my temporary othersville, I need to create the houses and import them into the engine.. lots of work.









this is the shot I was aiming for ^^...

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