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Old 10-17-17, 06:46 PM   #71
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This episode really goes against Trek in many ways. Previous captains probably wouldn't have forced a likely sentient being to do what the skinny guy planned. They'd prefer to find another solution or get out of the system the hard way...
FF, I think it's very important to look back at all of the Star Trek captains. First, they were all "human", and I assume, American. At least we know Capt. Kirk was born in Iowa.

We should also look at the F/O, Lt. Saru. He was given an order from the Admiral to find Capt. Lorca before he was broken and gave the Klingons the background on the new propulsion system.

His first chore was to get background on all "great" Star-Fleet captains. Looked at what made them great so he could follow in their footsteps. Decisiveness! Courage! was what he tried to model himself.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery - CBS/All Access Sunday

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FF, I think it's very important to look back at all of the Star Trek captains. First, they were all "human", and I assume, American. At least we know Capt. Kirk was born in Iowa.

We should also look at the F/O, Lt. Saru. He was given an order from the Admiral to find Capt. Lorca before he was broken and gave the Klingons the background on the new propulsion system.

His first chore was to get background on all "great" Star-Fleet captains. Looked at what made them great so he could follow in their footsteps. Decisiveness! Courage! was what he tried to model himself.
But can you see Kirk or Picard or Janeway making the choice he did? I'm mainly referring to the choice made after they entered the system to find Lorca. Where the creature was balled up and close to death.

I get that Trek has always been careful about not putting characters in true kobiashi maru scenarios. And they also avoided the truly difficult decisions made during war.

I definitely feel like the show is using the Trek name but not being faithful to the past shows. I'm saying that as someone who got sick of the old formula before TNG even ended.
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But can you see Kirk or Picard or Janeway making the choice he did? I'm mainly referring to the choice made after they entered the system to find Lorca. Where the creature was balled up and close to death...
Not at all!

But again, Lt. Saru isn't human.

I've always looked at the Star Trek enterprise as propaganda for the rest of the world. Remember again, all of the series were probably shipped to every country on the map, including those we consider less than friendly.

TPTB would've never showed a person from a Western Power being anything other than above board. Involvement with a sentient being (someone from one of those less than friendly countries) would've showed just how honorable and forthright people from the west are. JMO!


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