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View Poll Results: Does the Island on LOST float, or is it attached to the sea floor?
It floats. 1 8.33%
It's attached to the sea floor. 11 91.67%
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Old 08-27-11, 04:59 PM   #21
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Re: PUBLIC: Does the Island float, or is it attached to the sea floor?

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Guys, I'm done. This discussion is going nowhere. I feel like I'm becoming your plaything or punching bag. Obviously nobody is changing anybody's mind, and I don't feel like you guys are addressing the points I have raised in any serious kind of way, so I'm done. Feel free to play amongst yourselves.
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With this, I'm going to declare victory, and propose that Concussion and I have proven that the Island floats in water.
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Old 08-27-11, 11:39 PM   #22
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Re: PUBLIC: Does the Island float, or is it attached to the sea floor?

I really wanted to believe Lost Island was floating. But I'm not sure if it is floating where it would get all the fresh water coming in at? Sooner or later it would run out of fresh water coming in at the caves.

Also it has sandy beaches, most floating islands are in lakes and are made of plant roots and stuff. Sand would probably just sink to the bottom and get eroded away until there wasn't any island left.

An electromagnetic field would keep the sand from eroding but not sure where the fresh water would come from.
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Old 08-27-11, 11:42 PM   #23
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Re: PUBLIC: Does the Island float, or is it attached to the sea floor?

Someone needs to design a "floating island" smilie in honor of this thread.
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Old 08-28-11, 02:20 AM   #24
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Upside down helicopters would struggle to land on a floating island.
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Re: PUBLIC: Does the Island float, or is it attached to the sea floor?

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An electromagnetic field would keep the sand from eroding but not sure where the fresh water would come from.
Well, any decent sentient island time machine would certainly come equipped with water pumps and stills to convert seawater to freshwater.

But I think that an electromagnetic field powerful enough to levitate an island would probably wreak havoc on any sea life beneath it. Everyone just thought that Jin was a great fisherman. All he had to do was wade out a bit and scoop up all the dead fishies. eew
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Re: PUBLIC: Does the Island float, or is it attached to the sea floor?

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An electromagnetic field would keep the sand from eroding but not sure where the fresh water would come from.
Purely to answer Locutus's question, my highly speculative answer is that the Island can make it rain. Remember how Locke, with his attunement to the Island, seemed to always know when it was about to rain? Remember those instances where it would suddenly start raining, and then stop raining just as suddenly? I think Locke knew, because the Island knew. I think at least part of the Island's power is generated hydroelectrically, which is why the system started shutting down when Desmond pulled the plug and the water ran out. Perhaps one of the reasons why the Island moves, is because it is on the lookout for good rainclouds. Once they are overhead, it uses its unique electromagnetic field to ionize the air, and cause it to rain.

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I think that an electromagnetic field powerful enough to levitate an island would probably wreak havoc on any sea life beneath it. Everyone just thought that Jin was a great fisherman. All he had to do was wade out a bit and scoop up all the dead fishies. eew
It seems that present research into the effects of electromagnetism on marine life is inconclusive. We really don't know whether or not it would hurt them, or if they would instinctively avoid its zone of influence, since many marine animals navigate by electromagnetism.

ETA: Various examples of fan analysis of the Island from around the net (none of these are mine):

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My main objection was that the island could not be gravitationally stable in another geographic location unless it is a floating island, which I did not want to believe. Without rehashing that discussion, suffice to say there is evidence that the island does float.
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If the island is floating, it could just be a protrusion underneath the island where some control mechanism/engine/whatever is housed
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feyguy, I'm pretty sure the island does float
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I think moving the island geographically is too much of a stretch. The only way that could work is if the island floats--perhaps via the magnetic anomaly--because it would be virtually impossible to land the island in another precise location where the ocean floor is at the proper depth and geometry for the island to be stable.
http://lost.cubit.net/archives/2008/...ing-island.php

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The Island sits upon unusual exotic matter. Exotic matter is is needed to maintain a wormhole. Releases of this energy is able to pull boats, planes, and ships to the Island. It's also allows TT.The majority of this energy is below the Island. The Island rests at one mouth of , or with, a wormhole. It does not rest on land.
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If exotic matter is repelled by gravity, but mixed with matter that gravity attracts, would the result be a "floating" state?

Yes, I am assuming this is not a typical Island rooted below the sea. Not necessarily a ship of sorts, more like an unattached land mass.
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exotic matter, as far as can be speculated, is responsible for a phenomonon deep in space, where objects repel each other rather than attract. Meaning the exotic matter could repel gravity, but perhaps attract mass....perhaps furthering why, if its not an island, why it appears to be a land mass, it has liratly attracted mass to it and now appears to be an island.
this would be a way we could speculate a 'floating' effect, if this were to be true, as then gravity would 'pull' the land mass and the exotic matter would 'push' against it.
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The Season One stuff I think is where Carlton said that the Island was "made" if that helps.
http://forum.thefuselage.com/archive.../t-119688.html

Here's some discussion that took place prior to the end of Season 4:

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There are a lot of things in science fiction that do not make sense. My point is that this is a fictional show, on television no less. Take it for what it is. If you believe that a man suddenly walks after falling out of the sky onto a beach, then you can believe that an island can float.
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The Island is a vehicle. It sinks. It has power. It has hatches all over it. It can "move". The island is a ship. An advanced ship that has been used for thousands of years and built by who knows at this point.
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I have read footage where the producers actually said "if its even an island" indicating a hint that it may not be the obvious island.
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I know that were talking science fiction here but I have thought of a couple of points that would make the spatial moving of the island if not impossible, very improbable.

1) Island's do not float, how would they find an area of seabed that would exactly fit the contours of the island, unless the process cuts it cleanly of the seabed, even so they would have to find a perfectly flat area of seabed.

2) The island has a volcano on it, a volcano is effectively a tube running from the surface into the hot core of the earth, if you were to move it this would have all kinds of crazy effects, the results of removing the funnel created over millions of years by a volcano would have easily detectable (by widmore) effects.

3) Moving a mass of this size would have a huge effect on the surrounding area, the sheer amount of water displaced would be immense, causing a huge tsunami (Although this has already been mentioned in other threads as a possibility) All widmore would have to do is calculate the origin of the wave like they did in the terrible boxing day tsunami.
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1) Normal islands don't float. This is not a normal island. It might float, fly, swim, teleport, go underwater, anything.

2) Maybe it creates its own volcano tube whereever it goes. Maybe the volcano becomes dormant when the island moves to a non-volcanic area. Whatever.

3) Maybe it will create a tsunami. Maybe the island actually *switches places* with the water at its destination, canceling much adverse effect. Maybe it will be moved onto land!
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Old 08-28-11, 06:55 PM   #27
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Cool Re: PUBLIC: Does the Island float, or is it attached to the sea floor?

I'm changing my answer to 'yes'
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Re: PUBLIC: Does the Island float, or is it attached to the sea floor?

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Re: PUBLIC: Does the Island float, or is it attached to the sea floor?

When the island moves, it is within time. It is not moving from one GPS location to another. It is attached and only appears to be moving at all, due to the relation of someone viewing the time shift from outside of the dome.
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