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Yes, the destruction of all souls on earth constitutes "global implications." 11 78.57%
No, there are no "global implications" associated with the destruction of all human souls. 3 21.43%
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Old 09-14-11, 06:04 PM   #21
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Re: If unplugging the Island destroyed all souls on earth, would that constitute a "global implicati

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I've known all the players here for a long, long time.

I've just been gone for awhile.

Stopped in to see who would be here.

Knew Sgt would.

Thought Bob might.

Pleasantly surprised to see jack and Laz.
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Old 09-15-11, 02:31 AM   #22
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Re: If unplugging the Island destroyed all souls on earth, would that constitute a "global implicati

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If you lose your soul and don't know it there is no effect on the World.
I think there may have been an indication in the show that people would notice the absence of the soul. Or at least the absence of The Light within them, however you want to interpret that. We have the reanimated Sayid who states that he can't "feel" anymore. The others all notice an obvious change in him as well. Before that there was Robert and the other members of Danielle's crew. They had obviously changed as well. I think that they are all an example of what one can expect from the absence of the soul or an absence of Light from within the living.
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Old 09-15-11, 10:54 AM   #23
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I think there may have been an indication in the show that people would notice the absence of the soul. Or at least the absence of The Light within them, however you want to interpret that. We have the reanimated Sayid who states that he can't "feel" anymore. The others all notice an obvious change in him as well. Before that there was Robert and the other members of Danielle's crew. They had obviously changed as well. I think that they are all an example of what one can expect from the absence of the soul or an absence of Light from within the living.
I agree that that is the case in Lost. But my post was in response to a more generic idea that something that no one will ever know about has an effect on the World. In my opinion people losing their soul without knowing it has zero effect on the World. It has implications for each individual when they die but has no effect on the World. It was a fairly vacuous discussion which is why I didn't bother with it any further and then later said I regretted posting in the thread which in itself is nothing other than an attempt to discredit another poster.
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But my post was in response to a more generic idea that something that no one will ever know about has an effect on the World.
Right, I got that. Your post just reminded me about Sayid and I wanted to express a thought that TPTB may have been attempting to give us a taste of what the real world rammificatons would have been had The Light in men been put out.
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Re: If unplugging the Island destroyed all souls on earth, would that constitute a "global implicati

If we are talking about the impact in the lost universe, then I would say the show did not give us an example of the ramification of the "loss of ones soul". If the show told us what that would be like, I would certainly like to see how I missed that.

If you are implying that humans even have a soul in the real world and that this soul could be lost, then I can not imagine how this is not a discussion of your religious beliefs and completely against forum rules.
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Re: If unplugging the Island destroyed all souls on earth, would that constitute a "global implicati

It seems to me that if your "soul," your "lifeforce" was suddenly eliminated, you would immediately cease to exist. It's not like you get a soul after you die, you've got one now. It's the part of you that's really you. If that is suddenly gone, then you are suddenly gone.
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If we are talking about the impact in the lost universe, then I would say the show did not give us an example of the ramification of the "loss of ones soul". If the show told us what that would be like, I would certainly like to see how I missed that.
Out of curiosity, what's your take on what was going on with the reanimated Sayid?

The way he described it he sounded as if he was emotionally numb. He also said that it was MiB that brought him back. Personally, I think they were showing us that he was brought back without The Light but I'd like to see some other perspectives.
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Re: If unplugging the Island destroyed all souls on earth, would that constitute a "global implicati

I guess the idea is that your "soul" is just the part of you that is able to continue to be conscious after you die. The real "you" is just the collection of molecules and chemical reactions, etc, which ceases to be active after death. After all, we don't believe magic exists around here, right?
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Re: If unplugging the Island destroyed all souls on earth, would that constitute a "global implicati

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If we are talking about the impact in the lost universe, then I would say the show did not give us an example of the ramification of the "loss of ones soul". If the show told us what that would be like, I would certainly like to see how I missed that.
You don't seem to be following the thread of the discussion.

Bob believes that Jack saved the souls of every human being on earth when he plugged the Island back in, but that there were no "global implications" of leaving the Island unplugged.

I counter that if everyone on earth was in danger of losing their souls (this assuming that we accept Bob's theory in the first place), then leaving the Island unplugged clearly has "global implications."

I'm not sure you understood the dispute when you voted.

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If you are implying that humans even have a soul in the real world and that this soul could be lost, then I can not imagine how this is not a discussion of your religious beliefs and completely against forum rules.
That's not what anyone is talking about.
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Old 09-16-11, 04:20 PM   #30
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Re: If unplugging the Island destroyed all souls on earth, would that constitute a "global implicati

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If we are talking about the impact in the lost universe, then I would say the show did not give us an example of the ramification of the "loss of ones soul". If the show told us what that would be like, I would certainly like to see how I missed that.
We aren't talking about Lost, LV. We are discussing the different semantic interpretations of the term "global" which was never a word associated with the stakes in Lost.

Nevermind the fact that the thread in question was inspired by sgt's "Comprehensive Info on ELE" thread which is what sgt meant by global, i.e. end of the world, and the extinction of human lives not the souls of all men being extinguished.

Not that we didn't know that fact with 100% certainty before, but even in this thread sgt connects the idea of a loss of one's soul with the loss of one's life.
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