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Old 09-21-16, 02:34 PM   #171
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Mr. Robot Season Finale
S01E12, " eps2.9_pyth0n-pt2.p7z"
Wednesday - September 21, 2016
USA 10/9C


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Angela makes an unexpected acquaintance; Darlene realizes she's in deep; and an old friend reveals all to Elliot. Source
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But Elliot doesn't know what Mr. Robot doesn't know (the cab's destination) which seems to prompt the appearance of Tyrell.
That's a good catch, Pi-o-my and appreciated the info on the lucid dreaming.

I don't think Elliot is still dreaming. I think he woke up when he lost sight of Mr. Robot or when Mr. Robot disappeared.
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Old 09-22-16, 02:00 PM   #174
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Re: Mr. Robot - USA Wednesday

The ambiguity of it all!!!!

Is Tyrell real or an Elliot alter?

I think -- BOTH.

Tyrell is a real person. And now that FBI Agent Dom has shown Darlene their fsociety chart, we know the FBI think Tyrell is the leader. And maybe that's right or maybe he was set up to take the fall as leader.

And we now know that, the CTO of ECorp, Scott, was sending those gifts to Tyrell's wife, Joanna.

Here's what I think.
  • Mr. Robot, unknown to Elliot, shot and killed Tyrell.
  • Right after Tyrell is killed, Elliot allows himself to be sent to prison for charges he could have had dropped or reduced, but he elected not to. I think he was "laying low" in prison after the cyber attack on Ecorp.
  • Elliot realizes Mr. Robot shot and killed Tyrell.
  • Elliot's mind can't accept Mr. Robot's actions and splinters into another alter. Elliot becomes Tyrell. This allows Elliot to ignore what he really knows -- that he, as Mr. Robot, actually killed Tyrell.
  • Remember that we see everything from Elliot's POV.
  • When Tyrell shot Elliot -- in reality -- Elliot shot himself. (Just like the scene last season where we see Mr. Robot and Elliot fight in the restaurant -- what really happened was Elliot attacked himself and we saw his own hand at his neck and pinned up against the wall -- but there wasn't anyone except himself in that scene.)
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Old 09-23-16, 06:45 PM   #175
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Re: Mr. Robot - USA Wednesday

I'd thought Joanna was plotting to frame Derrick for Sharon Knowles' murder but using him to frame Scott Knowles (and exonerate Tyrell) -- what a python! And those wacky Jersey girls - when Darlene saw Dom's wall chart, she said exactly what Dom said when she looked up at Coney Island and saw the FSociety sign. I'm not sure I buy Dom's claim that Romero's death was a random accident (remember, White Rose hates that A word.) His phone was smashed, and the agents working the scene didn't seem too competent.

Meanwhile, Trenton Tania and Mobley Frederick are in Phoenix (White Rose would approve of that frameless employee door near where they're eating.) Leon found them so it looks like they haven't covered their tracks well enough -- is he on a Dark Army mission and if so what? Could Trenton Tania's discovery be of use for, say, the Washington Township project?

Any thoughts about what White Rose told Angela in the 20 or so minutes left of the allotted 28? Did White Rose not only recruit her but also predict exactly what would happen at the loft? Has White Rose been through this door before?

Sandi, I think you're right that Elliot used the dognapping and hacking charges to hide out in prison, and I think you're onto something about Elliot avoiding his guilt in killing Tyrell by splitting off a new personality. But Angela seemed confident that Elliot was asleep when Tyrell called her, not in need of medical assistance. That sounds like he might have been sleeping the whole time, so not actually shot. But only Mr. Robot was glitching as Elliot lost consciousness, so maybe Tyrell is physically there. But if Tyrell is bullet-hole-free, why did the FBI find a casing but no bullet or bullet hole? But maybe he's now the ascendant personality. Ugh, I'm hating that we have to wait so long to find out what's next.

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I'm not sure I buy Dom's claim that Romero's death was a random accident (remember, White Rose hates that A word.) His phone was smashed, and the agents working the scene didn't seem too competent.
I'm not buying it -- especially with the attack killing Cisco. The Dark Army is eliminating anyone it sees as a threat.
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Meanwhile, Trenton Tania and Mobley Frederick are in Phoenix (White Rose would approve of that frameless employee door near where they're eating.) Leon found them so it looks like they haven't covered their tracks well enough -- is he on a Dark Army mission and if so what?
Oh, I think Leon is there to kill them -- plain and simple.
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Could Trenton Tania's discovery be of use for, say, the Washington Township project?
My first thought on that is she discovered a way to undo everything they did -- i.e. restore ECorp records to before the hack.
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Any thoughts about what White Rose told Angela in the 20 or so minutes left of the allotted 28? Did White Rose not only recruit her but also predict exactly what would happen at the loft? Has White Rose been through this door before?
I think Price and White Rose have both used Angela to undo the other and I think White Rose has decided to continue that game, even though Angela was onto the Washington Township project. I think it's likely that Angela will be working with the Dark Army against Price and just maybe White Rose promised Angela Price's position once Price is taken down.

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But only Mr. Robot was glitching as Elliot lost consciousness
Well we are seeing this from Elliot's POV. If we were seeing this from Tyrell's POV, would Elliot have been glitching as well? I think Tyrell didn't glitch because he was the personality taking over and sending the other two back into unconsciousness.
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Old 09-25-16, 12:17 AM   #177
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Re: Mr. Robot - USA Wednesday

Beyond all the questions you guys have already asked, I read more (or maybe too much?) into that phone call by Tyrell to Angela. They seemed to already know each other. Tyrell seemed to be looking for Angela's approval of what he'd done, and like he needed her there to stabilize the situation. My gut, no-thought reaction was... wait, has Angela been involved all along? Based on the last epi, it seems clear Angela and White Rose didn't know each other. (I take that back - nothing on this show is clear!). But...

Anyway, I have to admit, I was really hoping to understand at least SOMETHING better now than I did after season 1, but I really don't.

Well, I guess we do know Tyrell was a real person. I think he still is. Otherwise, Angela would have to know that Elliot developed Tyrell as a new personality, since she called him Tyrell and talked about Elliot with him.

I'm not clear on Angela's role in F-Society, if any before her meeting with White Rose.

I'm not clear on the relationship between Elliot and the Dark Army. Everyone says it's Elliot's plan, but Dark Army seems to be trying to eliminate everyone in F-Society even though the plan isn't complete yet.

On Dom's chart, I thought I saw other people listed as "F-Society Operatives" or something like that who I didn't recognize. Was that Dom conflating F-Society and the Dark Army incorrectly, or is F-Society bigger than our little Scooby gang?

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Re: Mr. Robot - USA Wednesday



Season Premiere

Mr. Robot
S03E01 - "Eps3.0_Power-Saver-Mode.H"
Wednesday - October 11, 2017
USA 10/9C


Spoiler: Episode Description


"In the Season 3 premiere, Elliot gets woke and realizes that his mission needs help from Angela. In other events, Darlene freaks about them coming out clean." Source

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Mr. Robot
S03E02 - "Eps3.1_Undo.Gz"
Wednesday - October 18, 2017
USA 10/9C


Spoiler: Episode Description


"Elliot is lit by his goal to undo five/nine; Darlene is caught between a rock and a hard place; and Mr. Robot sparks a panic." Source
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Re: Mr. Robot - USA Wednesday

Still digesting the first episode, but I guess I don’t need to worry about spoilers for the second one here, yet. Nobody ready for their free milkshake?

What have they done to Bobby Cannavale, he looks like Steve Rogers before the Captain America serum? Good to see him, in any case, and under any name. But what’s up with all the red wagon stuff? All I can think of is that William Carlos Williams was a doctor who wrote poetry, so double identity. (Ditto “detective” Robert Abernathy, who has the name of a linguist [!] who writes sci fi.)

And what’s up with a close-up of Abernathy’s cab number? “X” as in “multiply”? As in multiple universes? The group leader at Washington Township Nuclear Plant used the term "parallel universes" and that seems to violate continuity of clues. And I figured if TPTB were going to go full on sci fi, it would be with time travel, given White Rose’s and Trenton’s comments in previous seasons. They can’t do both, can they?

Speaking of Trenton…didn’t last season end with a cliff hanger?

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