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Old 09-19-17, 09:21 AM   #51
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From a tactical standpoint, the Vkings' shieldmaidens were the equivalent of the first line in a Spartan phalanx (except centuries earlier than the Spartans tighter formations). They were THEE vanguard, the position of highest honor and greatest responsibility in any battle. That's WHY the Valkyries were the choosers of those worthy of Valhalla.

A lot of what we are familiar with today regarding Nordic culture and religion comes from Richard Wagner ( a favorite of the broadcasts at Auschwitz), J.R.R Tolkien (who distorted it into unrecognizability) and a general sense of a gigantic blonde woman sining obtuse arias while wearing a horned helm.

The early Christian missionaries did all they could do erase Nordic mythology, and where they couldn't erase, they embraced. Funny that in a society so heavily bent on Latin-Greek and Judeo-Christian fundamentals, more than half of the days of the week are based on Nordic names, no? Tue->Tiu->Tyr; Odin->Woden->Wednes; Thor's->Thur's; Freya's->Fri.

Ah but that last one''s the rub that brings us back round to the theme of the thread. There are certain idiots who claim that since the other Norse-named days are named after male gods, then Friday must be named after Frey, not Freya. Of course, there are a lot of problems with that concept, not least of which being that Freya, as goddess of springtime, clearly outranked Frey, who was god of consort to Freya.

Anyway, i won't come into this thread and try to pretend that Vikings were particularly nice to womenfolk. I merely wanted to point out that there was a certain respect there, and it was shown both on the battlefield and in the temples.
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Re: International Women's Day 2016/2017

Another day. Another attack on people with uteri's very lives.

The current joke of an administration has just announced they are throwing their weight behind a proposal to make it a FEDERAL CRIME to have an abortion at 20 weeks. For those who don't know, right now, already? the only abortions occurring at 20 weeks or later, are because the fetus is DEAD inside the uterus, or there are such major, life threatening abnormalities in the fetus' development (hydrocephalia, for example), that it would not survive birth. Once more, for the people in the back: abortions at 20 weeks or later, in the USoA, only happen for medical reasons.

But the rump in the White House has just announced that he'll support a FEDERAL LAW TO CRIMINALIZE...medically indicated abortions.

Yay.

Pro-life.

Except, lets also work really hard at taking away prenatal care, NICU care, birth control, regular pap smears and other preventative care, from biologically female bodies. No more essential health benefits for you, women and trans men, because the white cis men making decisions over your health don't need no mammograms, or any of that 'female' nonsense.

They absolutely require their boner pills, and those will be paid for. One guess why.

Sexism? Not here, that's crazy talk. /s

Personal note: I realized that my original wording erased the experience of trans men; I was thoughtless and this knee jerking is hurtful and harmful. I apologize.
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Old 10-04-17, 02:30 PM   #53
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Re: International Women's Day 2016/2017

So, the 20weeks abortion ban passed the House.

It may not pass the Senate--though with this Congress? It may.

It's never a good time to talk about gun control, and talking about 'small government' is an excellent selling point; yet it's always a good time to micromanage female bodies and choices.

It's never a good or convenient time to provide for women's and trans men's comprehensive and proper health care, whether or not they decide to procreate; it's never convenient to provide for the care of those children that will be born, damn their health or the health of the people who birth them (and that includes mental health issues from being forced to carry to term a pregnancy over their own judgement and will); it's never convenient to protect those children after they have been born.

But by golly, we'll make sure they are born!

Welcome to 2017 in the wealthiest country on the planet.

Personal note: I realized that my original wording erased the experience of trans men; I was thoughtless and this knee jerking is hurtful and harmful. I apologize. Not intending harm doesn't ever mean that harm has not been done.
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Re: International Women's Day 2016/2017

Lets see these science-disdaining politicians, claiming to be "pro-life," try to come back at this doctor and refute her facts, receipts, and knowledge:

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Re: International Women's Day 2016/2017

When Tippi Hedren said that Alfred Hitchock harassed her in the set of The Birds, Hitchcock 'experts' were given page space and air time to call her a liar.

When 60 (SIXTY!) women came forward to say that Bill Cosby had raped them, we were told that all they wanted was money and fame--and he was acquitted.

When Brock Turner was found guilty of raping an unconscious woman, his father asked the court to consider that '20 minutes of action' shouldn't weigh more than the potential of his future--and the judge agreed, sentencing a convicted rapist to six months of jail, of which he served three.

When ~20 women said that Donald Trump--who had admitted on tape to grabbing women by the pussy and 'just kissing them' without asking or waiting for consent--had sexually assaulted them, the ripple of shock lasted less than two weeks, and his ass presently sits at the White House, supporting misogynistic measures, approving of literal Nazis, and signing executive orders cancelling subsidies for health care for the poorest in the country.

Now that Harvey Weinstein is on the hot seat for serially abusing women for decades, including raping them, we hear condemnation for...Hillary Clinton, currently a private citizen.

We also hear condemnations for...Harvey Weinstein's victims, with vociferous voices demanding to know why these accusations weren't made at the time of the attacks, why did these women keep silent, why didn't these victims think of all the women who would be victimized after them, why didn't these victims come forward, speak out, speak up, why...

Why, indeed.

Men, and many women, hold individual women responsible for the shitty actions, behaviours, thoughts of criminal men.

"If women didn't go out drinking with men, they wouldn't be harassed/abused/raped."
Women: "I wasn't drinking alcohol, my non-alcoholic drink was spiked with a rape drug, and I was attacked when I was unconscious."
"If women didn't go out alone with men, they couldn't be harassed/abused/raped."
Women: "I wasn't alone with him, there were other people with us, and they didn't nothing to help me."
"If women wouldn't go out with men they don't know well, they wouldn't be harassed/abused/raped."
Women: "I had known him for years, and he raped me."
"If women kept work and socialization separate, they wouldn't be harassed/abused/raped."
Women: "I was harassed and groped at work."
"If women reported abuse at work to Human Resources, they wouldn't be harassed/abused/raped."
Women: "I followed every procedure to report sexual abuse by my boss/co-workers/top executives, that HR told me to...and, after years of stellar evaluations, I was fired for 'poor performance.'"
"If women spoke up about abusive men, they wouldn't be harassed/abused/raped."
Women: "When I told my group of friends that one of the men in the group had had groped me, they expressed shock, but remained his friends. When I told them his jokes and body language made me feel unsafe, they told me I 'misunderstood' him. When I said that I knew he was a sexual abuser, they told me to stop 'spreading rumors' and 'defaming' him. When I told them he had raped me, they didn't believe me."
"If women didn't put themselves in dangerous situations, they wouldn't be harassed/abused/raped."
Women: "We are raped by our relatives, we are raped by our parents' friends, we are raped by other students, teachers, cops, bosses, customers at places of employments, doctors at their offices..."
"If women didn't dress that way, talk that way, walk that way, think that way, be there, work in that industry, live in that country, they wouldn't be harassed/abused/raped."
Women: ...
But there's no such thing as sexism, there is no such thing as rape culture, there is no such thing as toxic masculinity, and anything bad that happens to women is because women did something to provoke it.
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Re: International Women's Day 2016/2017

Why does it take women so long to speak up about sexual assault?

Oh let me count the reasons.

Harvey Weinstein hired people to threaten some of his victims.

Roy Moore has ridiculed those of his victims who have spoken up on national TV, and Breitbart has announced that they are sending two 'reporters' down to Alabama with the specific goal of 'finding dirt' on them.

One of the things being trotted out is that at least one of these women has married/divorced three times, and have declared bankruptcy at some point.* I mean, who would think that being sexually abused as a child would have negative effects on the child's development? What a freaking concept.

Beyond the fear, constantly reinforced, that there will be real consequences (rape and death threats are not uncommon), or that victims will not be believed, even by close family members, there are many other reasons women don't come forward for years, if ever.

One of them is how girls are socialized to have no boundaries.

How many of us were told to give uncle/grandfather/family friend/kindly person on the street a hug and a kiss during family visits/the holidays/whatever the occasion or reason?

I know I was forced to allow physical contact from people who gave me the serious creeps from a very early age. The same went for my sister. My brothers, however, were allowed the manly handshake, or the smile and nod, without being called to task for lack of manners.

Girls grow up internalizing the idea that they do not get to define their personal boundaries--not physically, not emotionally. It takes years, if it ever happens, to overcome this subtle and pervasive conditioning.

And this conditioning affects our ability to understand consent--for both women and men.

It teaches boys that when they are men they don't have to respect women's boundaries.

It teaches girls that, when they are women, they must defer to men's definition of their own boundaries.
“The notion of consent may seem very grown-up and like something that doesn’t pertain to children,” says Girl Scouts’ developmental psychologist Dr. Andrea Bastiani Archibald, “but the lessons girls learn when they’re young about setting physical boundaries and expecting them to be respected last a lifetime, and can influence how she feels about herself and her body as she gets older. Plus, sadly, we know that some adults prey on children, and teaching your daughter about consent early on can help her understand her rights, know when lines are being crossed, and when to go to you for help.”

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* but gee, if it's a white orange-tinted dude with this history, it's perfectly reasonable to elect him to the White House. No white male privilege there, no siree.
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Re: International Women's Day 2016/2017

Terry Crews knows why victims sometimes take years, if not decades, before they can speak out.

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Re: International Women's Day 2016/2017/2018

"Why do you harp so much on all the injustices done to women? What about the MEEEEEENNNNN??????"

Meet Jessica Eaton, who runs a charity exclusively focused on men's mental health (in the UK), getting zero criticism from either men or women for this, yet gets everything from "you fat c*nt feminist" to rape and death threats for her advocacy against blaming women and girl victims of violence.

In her own words:
Why don’t I get any abuse when I speak and write about men and boys?

Why am I hailed?


Why did we win 6 charity awards and over £300k in the first 18 months of operation?

Why did I end up on every TV channel and radio in the UK?

Why can I launch studies and campaigns and videos and appeals for TEF about male mental health and receive ZERO whataboutery comments?

And why do I get shouted down if I even dare post one tweet about violence against women or rape statistics or murders of women by partners?

Why do I get hundreds of messages and tweets every week asking me:

‘But what about men?’

And actually, this isn’t rocket science. This is uncomfortable but it’s real talk:

Women are socialised into their gender roles (gender roles are harmful, narrow, stereotypical characteristics and expectations assigned to males and females to conform to a societal norm) to not even possess a shred of the sense of entitlement that men have. Women do not read a campaign about male mental health or male abuse or male cancers and furiously tweet back ‘what about women, you c*nt?!’ because they didn’t think about themselves when they read it. They didn’t see the campaign as two fingers up to women.
Seriously, read the whole thing--and do some self-questioning.

Ask yourself what are your first, instinctive reactions to some things that happen all the time.

Ask yourself whether, when a woman speaks about equality issues, your first reaction is to think she's mediocre and wants to be treated 'unfairly' well.

Ask yourself whether your first reaction when a woman accuses a man of abuse is to question the woman's motivations ("she's trying to get revenge on him!" or "she's trying to get rich/become famous off him!").

Ask yourself whether, when women talk about pay inequality, your first thought/comment is about 'quality.'

Ask yourself whether, when a woman uses the term 'mansplaining,' your first thought is that she's a man-hating feminazi.

Ask yourself whether, in a conversation about male violence/abuse/harassment towards women, you feel compelled to defend "#notallmen."

Think about the phrase "When you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression," and about all the many ways men--particularly white cis men--have been socialized into privilege, to the point where any attempts at equal treatment of others feels like a treat.

And, if you are a woman, particularly a cis woman: misogyny can be internalized to an incredible degree, because we are born into a system that privileges boys over girls. Self examination behooves us just as much--how often do we question rape accusations as through victim blaming? ("Why was she with him? what was she wearing? was she drinking?") How often do we put the onus of men's behaviour on women and girls? ("Did she tease him? Did she lead him on? Did she say NO loud enough, seriously enough?")
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Re: International Women's Day 2016/2017/2018

So.

#MeToo.

Women talking for a few weeks (perhaps just over a month?*) about their experiences with different levels of sexual violence/assault/harassment.

Lo and behold, to most women's sorrow, yet utter lack of surprise, it turns out the most of the women we know have suffered some sort of sexual violence, and sometimes several different kinds, sometimes more than once over the course of their lives, sometimes at the hands of several different men.

And the natural response, from #notallmen, is to express their dismay that all this outpouring of female suffering...will make their dating lives harder.

That men will become afraid of dating, because "accusations of sexual abuse/domestic partner violence ruin lives!" (I can off the top of my head name at least an even dozen of male celebrities whose professional lives have suffered NO HARM, regardless of how many people bring receipts--hello, Woody Allen, Johnny Depp, Chris Brown, Casey Affleck, Donald Trump, Floyd Maywather, Kobe Bryant, Azis Ansari, Mike Tyson, James Franco, Al Franken, Joel Kramer, Kevin Spacey).

That mostly women accuse men to 'gain something' or 'for revenge' (the ultimate whine on that vein: Larry Nassar's letter to the sentencing judge quoting 'hell hath no fury').

And, the icing on the WTAF cake: that women should consider/understand/learn about how men cannot control themselves because 'biology.' That this is 'just how men are.' The pseudo grown up version of 'boys will be boys,' if you will.

So, let's talk biology, social conditioning, and pain.

(Yes, again, because there are still people denying reality when it makes them uncomfortable, or asks them to take responsibility for how the culture we live in privileges them and their feelings over those of about half the population of the world.)
...we might also, provisionally, and just as a thought experiment, accept that biology — or "nature" — coexists with history and sometimes replicates the lopsided biases of its time.

This is certainly true of medicine. Back in the 17th century, the conventional wisdom was that women were the ones with the rampant, undisciplined sexual appetites. That things have changed doesn't mean they're necessarily better. These days, a man can walk out of his doctor's office with a prescription for Viagra based on little but a self-report, but it still takes a woman, on average, 9.28 years of suffering to be diagnosed with endometriosis, a condition caused by endometrial tissue growing outside the uterus. By that time, many find that not just sex but everyday existence has become a life-deforming challenge. That's a blunt biological reality if ever there was one.

Or, since sex is the subject here, what about how our society's scientific community has treated female dyspareunia — the severe physical pain some women experience during sex — vs. erectile dysfunction (which, while lamentable, is not painful)? PubMed has 393 clinical trials studying dyspareunia. Vaginismus? 10. Vulvodynia? 43.

Erectile dysfunction? 1,954.

That's right: PubMed has almost five times as many clinical trials on male sexual pleasure as it has on female sexual pain. And why? Because we live in a culture that sees female pain as normal and male pleasure as a right.

...

This is especially true where sex is concerned. Faking an orgasm achieves all kinds of things: It can encourage the man to finish, which means the pain (if you're having it) can finally stop. It makes him feel good and spares his feelings. If being a good lover means making the other person feel good, then you've excelled on that front too. Total win.

We're so blind to pain being the giant missing term in our sexual discussions that ABC News' epic 2004 "American Sex Survey," which includes an amazing 67 questions, never once mentions it. It doesn't even show up as a possible reason for orgasm-faking.

...

In a world where women are co-equal partners in sexual pleasure, of course it makes sense to expect that a woman would leave the moment something was done to her that she didn't like.

That is not the world we live in.

In the real world, the very first lesson the typical woman learns about what to expect from sex is that losing her virginity is going to hurt. She's supposed to grit her teeth and get through it. Think about how that initiation into sex might thwart your ability to recognize "discomfort" as something that's not supposed to happen. When sex keeps hurting long after virginity is lost, as it did for many of my friends, many a woman assumes she's the one with the problem. And, well, if you were supposed to grit your teeth and get through it the first time, why not the second? At what point does sex magically transform from enduring someone doing something to you that you don't like — but remember: everyone agrees you're supposed to tolerate it — to the mutually pleasurable experience everyone else seems to think it is?

We don't really have a language for that amazingly complicated transition because we don't think about the biological realities of sex from the woman's side.
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* To be clear, the hashtag is much older, but it was started by a black woman, so it didn't get that much traction outside black female twitter until a white woman used it.
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