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Old 05-19-17, 02:13 AM   #91
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Re: Greatest Warrior in the Game of Thrones Universe

I'm pretty sure I went on and on about it.

Go to the poll and vote, Ness.

http://losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87631
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Old 05-19-17, 02:31 AM   #92
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My proposal--

We're going to need to do this tournament-style (no pun intended).

I'm thinking make a list of 16 candidates.

Make a run-off poll that is multiple choice, people pick their top five or whatever. That is used for seeding.
Then match-up polls for the tournament.

Criteria:

--You can use book OR show evidence to back up your votes / post making a case. There are no "book spoilers" any more, since the show is ahead of the books. The flexibility to use both "canons" will save lots of griping about "but in the -----," while allowing us to consider each warrior at their BEST, in whichever media they are best. Then, no "show Character could beat book Character2, but book Character couldn't beat book Character2." Best-Character vs. Best-Character2 are the rules, even if one is book and one is show.

--Each warrior is allowed the weapon they use best. Things that would not qualify as weapons: Anything with independent will, human or animal ; Anything that requires multiple people to operate (like Tyrion's chain, a trebuchet, whatever) ; Anything that could not be used in actual combat (like poison UNLESS it is poison on a dart / spear / actual wieldable weapon). Warriors will be armored the way that they are normally armored for combat (if they fight in mail/plate, they wear that. If they don't fight in that, they don't wear it. Fighting in armor would be part of the learned skill-- like how Drogo wouldn't wear plate because it would slow him, or how Bronn was only lightly mailed fighting Vardis Egan in the Eyrie).

--You can consider a duel OR a battle situation, but you're judging each warrior on his OWN abilities, not how he would do surrounded by fellow soldiers, for example. What you can't do is set up unlikely conditions that would favor someone's abilities more than is plausible (Arya isn't always going to be in a completely dark room when fighting, so while taking her heightened senses into account, it's not plausible to assume that she will always have those conditions present). Probably best to judge by considering a variety of conditions, and averaging it out in your head.

--Assume that the warrior is uninjured and in their peak condition.

In short, plop these two into a ring in Mereen with their favorite weapon, and have them go at it, who wins?
So the ability to warg doesn't count as a criteria?
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Re: Greatest Warrior in the Game of Thrones Universe

I'm just sayin cause like.. couldn't Bran just warg into his opponent and make them slit their own throat?
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Re: Greatest Warrior in the Game of Thrones Universe

Not at his current ability level. He's only been able to warg into Hodor, who is pre-prepped for that invasion.
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Wasn't he pre-prepped for the invasion BY Bran himself? Wouldn't that mean that it actually is his current ability level?
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Re: Greatest Warrior in the Game of Thrones Universe

No, because time travel paradox.

And because that's stupid.
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Weapons don't make a warrior.

Weapons can always be taken away. "Greatest Warrior" is who would come out on top if no one had weapons.

So yeah, weapons can make you win, but they can't make you a warrior.
If weapons don't make the warriors, why go out of your way to list them in the poll options?
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Re: Greatest Warrior in the Game of Thrones Universe

Oh wait, I thread jumped and posted mid conversation. Apologies.
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Re: Greatest Warrior in the Game of Thrones Universe

BECAUSE THAT IS HOW IT MAKES SENSE.
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