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Old 05-18-17, 01:19 AM   #221
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Re: What are your thoughts ? REAL WORLD MIND READING

Currently, this is soley for myself to extrapolate information from.

All this material is completely applicable to MEMs tech and how it MIGHT be used to generate NONLOCAL BRAIN COMPUTER INTERFACES, transmitting EEG information in the PHASE of the WEAKLY measured wavefunctions of the electromagnetic wavepackets Neurons cause and communicate via.


TOPICS INCLUDED IN THIS POST :
WAVEFUNCTIONS/ WAVEPACKETS/ SPATIOTEMPORAL MODES
HOMODYNE DETECTION/ MEMS/ BIOMEMS
PHOTON COUNTING/ QUANTUM PHASE
WIGNER FUNCTION/ TELEPORTATION

NON-COLLAPSE/ INTERACTION FREE MEASUREMENT
COHERENCE/ DECOHERENCE/ INTERFERENCE
COUNTERFACTUAL COMMUNICATION
PHASE/ QUANTUM ZENO EFFECT
MACH ZEHNDER INTERFEROMETRY
NV MAGNETOMETRY
QUANTUM METROLOGY




- BCI's DETECT ELECTRICAL ACTIVITY IN THE BRAIN


- NEURONS COMMUNICATE VIA ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS


- ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS can best be described as WAVEPACKETS, on a WAVEFUNCTION LEVEL..

EVEN IN THE NEURONAL SENSE
Quote:
Evolution of regenerative Ca-ion wave-packet in Neuronal-firing ...
https://www.ingber.com › path17_quantu...
by L Ingber - ‎2014 - ‎Cited by 1 - ‎Related articles
Page -14. Evolution of regenerative Ca- ion wave-packet in Neuronal-firing. Fields: Quantum path-integral with serial Shocks ..... A and the electric field = ( / ).
- WAVEPACKETS are locallized, WAVEFUNCTIONS
"Each component wave function, and hence the wave packet, are solutions of a wave equation."
SEE: https://www.physicsforums.com/thread...nction.265669/


***THIS IS PROBABLY THEE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THIS HYPOTHESIS

There is a MAJOR connection here, between the electrical fields of Neurons..
(Even protons or electrons actually)
and the wavefunction/ wavepacket measurements now being made by technology..


THE ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD AND ITS QUANTA.. ITS WAVE PACKETS, LITERALLY SPAWNED QUANTUM MECHANICS



- WAVEFUNCTIONS hence WAVEPACKETS, can be WEAKLY MEASURED
These links merely support this idea...

Quote:
http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.../9/11/414/meta
"Photon wave functions, wave-packet quantization of light ...
iopscience.iop.org › article › meta
by BJ Smith 2007 Cited by 123
Good R H 1957 Particle aspect of the electromagnetic field equations Phys. Rev ... system in repeated weak quantum nondemolition measurements Phys. R"
Quote:
Anomalous time delays and quantum weak measurements in optical micro-resonators
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5476806/
The best article to explain this idea is :
"CAPTURING SIGHT OF THE ELUSIVE WAVEFUNCTION"
which utilized COMPRESSIVE SENSING and Weak Measurement..

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/...e-wavefunction
Quote:
In the orthodox interpretation of quantum mechanics, the wavefunction contains the maximal knowledge that is available about the state of a system. It determines the probabilities that various results will be obtained when measurements are made on the dynamic variables of the system such as its position or momentum.
However, measuring the wavefunction is no easy task. Thanks to Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, measuring a quantum system without effectively destroying it before the wavefunction is fully known has seemed impossible. Now, by taking a new approach to quantum measurement, Jeff Lundeen and his team from the National Research Council, Canada, have directly measured the wavefunction of identical single photons for the first time.
Making a measurement on just one copy of a system – such as just a single photon – gives us part of the wavefunction. However, the measurement must be repeated many times on an ensemble of identical photons to gain enough information to construct the entire wavefunction. This indirect form of measurement is known as "quantum tomography" and has been used for some time.

Recording ripples

Lundeen likens tomography to mapping the shape of a ripple on the surface of a pond (the wavefunction) by taking snapshots of the shadows of the ripples on the bottom. By combining information from many snapshots, the shape of the ripple can be inferred. In quantum tomography, however, each snapshot measurement is so "strong" that it destroys the ripple and the process must be repeated with identical ripples. Beyond the destructive nature, certain wavefunctions such as atomic or molecular orbitals cannot be determined using tomography.

Instead of focusing on the shadows, the team has worked out a way to directly probe both the real and imaginary parts of the wavefunction of an ensemble of photons. The method relies on the concept of "weak measurement", which has been used recently to measure some quantum systems – and does not destroy the wavefunction.

"Our understanding of the wavefunction is rather abstract and there is no official textbook definition," says Lundeen. "We decided to look into the method of weak measurements irrespective of how wary scientists seem to be of it," he continues, explaining that, although the theory of weak measurements was developed in the 1980s, it was dismissed by many researchers because it produced rather "odd results" that were much larger than expected. The reason for the unexpected results, explains Lundeen, is that a weak measurement gives a complex number – it has a real part and an imaginary part.

Gentle measurements

The theory of weak measurement says that it is possible to "gently" or "weakly" measure a quantum system and to gain some information about one property (say, position) without appreciably disturbing the complementary property (momentum) and therefore the future evolution of the system. Though the information obtained for each measurement is tiny, an average of multiple measurements gives an accurate estimation of the measurement of the property without distorting its final value.

For a generic quantum measurement, the system to be measured is coupled with another state that can be thought of as a "pointer".
Information about a measured property is gained by observing a change in the position of the pointer. Generally, this is considered to be a strong measurement because there is little overlap between the original and final positions of the pointer. The detection of a photon in a CCD, for example, would swing the pointer from zero photons to one but result in the destruction of that photon.

In a weak measurement, it is just the opposite, with the final position of the pointer overlapping to a large extent with its initial position. In the measurement carried out by the team, the real part of the wavefunction is given by a small shift of the pointer related to the position of the photon. The imaginary part of the wavefunction is given by a shift of the pointer related to the momentum of the photon. So the position is weakly measured while the momentum is strongly measured.

Four basic steps

The experiment has four basic steps. The first is to generate a stream of single photons with identical wavefunctions. "It is virtually impossible to measure a wavefunction with just one copy of a quantum system (i.e. one photon), this we are almost sure of," explained Lundeen. The team either used an attenuated laser beam or a process known as spontaneous parametric down-conversion (SPDC) to produce its photon stream.

The next step is to set up the weak measurement of the transverse position of the photon by inducing a rotation in each photon's polarization by a very small amount – 10 – using a quartz crystal. Because the polarization change is small, the system is not greatly disturbed.

The photons are then collimated and only photons travelling in a specific direction are detected – a process called post-selection. This is the strong measurement. In the final step, the weak measurement is carried out by measuring the two types of polarization that have actually occurred in the photons post-collimation. This is two-fold because the real part of the measurement is the actual amount of linear rotation that has occurred and the imaginary part is given by the circular rotation or the "ellipticity" of the polarization that has occurred. Together, these values give the weak measurement of the wavefunction. The researchers repeated the measurement for photons with different wavefunctions to confirm the accuracy of the results.

Better than tomography?

Lundeen points out that the signal-to-noise ratio of his team's experiment was rather good. Indeed, he says that an important benefit of the weak measurement technique is that the results are amplified. Therefore it could prove to be especially useful for studying systems that are currently very hard to measure.


While he believes that there will still be a place for quantum tomography, Lundeen feels that certain systems will benefit from the technique used by his team. "While tomography is a global measurement that is more a reconstruction of the wave function, our measurement is local and direct." he explained. "The simple benefit of our research is that we now have an operational textbook definition of a wavefunction...something that is essential
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Once an entangled particle is observed, you know its state and it decoheres to that state.
the entanglement stops. but there are tricks, like the delayed choice quantum erasure

think about the Dr quantum double slit video.

the interference pattern is entangled superpositions of the photon because it has not been observed.

No DIRECT Observation/ Coherence/ No collapse = CONSTRUCTIVE INTERFERENCE
Observation/ Decoherence/ Collapse = DESTRUCTIVE INTERFERENCE


So once you look to see what slit it goes through, you collapse the wavefunction.
it decoheres from superposition.

the zeno effect, seems to be a LOT like the delayed choice quantum erasure.
I'm still trying to figure out these final details.
it has always bugged me. I have a few posts here about how entanglement could be sustained. the zeno effect seems to have a big connection. its about Phase, which means homodyning works with it.


Quote:
Furthermore, we describe a measurement induced
quantum Zeno effect [12] for the entanglement, showing
that the quite simple procedure of monitoring the pop-
ulation of the cavity mode leads to a protection of the
entanglement well beyond its natural decay time
in our theory here.. this would be "photon counting" or homodyning/
as used in quantum repeaters.. which have to measure quantum states.

Here is the part about how PHASE is being used in the QZD..

Quote:
It works based on the fact that, in the quantum world, all light particles can be fully described by wave functions, rather than as particles. So by embedding messages in light the researchers were able to transmit this message without ever directly sending a particle.

The Answer in Light

The team explains that the basic idea for this set up came from holography technology.
“In the 1940s, a new imaging technique – holography – was developed to record not only light intensity but also the phase of light,” the researchers write in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
“One may then pose the question: Can the phase of light itself be used for imaging? The answer is yes.”
The basic idea is this – someone wants to send an image to Alice using only light (which acts as a wave, not a particle, in the quantum realm).
Alice transfers a single photon to the nested interferometer, where it can be detected by three single-photon detectors: D0, D1, and Df.
If D0 or D1 ‘click’, Alice can conclude a logic result of one or zero. If Df clicks, the result is considered inconclusive.
Quote:
“After the communication of all bits, the researchers were able to reassemble the image – a monochrome bitmap of a Chinese knot. Black pixels were defined as logic 0, while white pixels were defined as logic 1 …
In the experiment, the phase of light itself became the carrier of information, and the intensity of the light was irrelevant to the experiment.”
for more information see :
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/177588/the-meaning-of-the-phase-in-the-wave-function

SO IN OTHER WORDS, INFORMATION CAN BE ENCODED INTO THE PHASE OF WAVEFUNCTIONS.

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This has been the big measurement problem regarding wavefunctions and quantum states.
measuring the wave collapses it to a classical state.

& to see a photon, you have to bounce another off it, and that changes it.
Measuring position, changes momentum and vice verse.
but, if you know how you plan to measure it, you can somewhat determine that change, and thus, know the true undisturbed state.

seems just like weak measurement really.


Mems are developed with a known quantum state.. so they know which way the states are being measured and they subtract the known state from the homodyned one.
but its more of a polarizing trick. you know the "angle" you are observing in.

there was a good video explaining the zeno effect in the link above. a
Spoiler: ..


it just screams "coherent states" to me.

the higher the amplitude the less noise becomes a factor in measuring.
seems just like the zeno effect and time.


and mems provide time domains.
something very useful here.

Quote:
The amount of quantum noise in the electric field is completely independent of the phase. As the field strength, i.e. the oscillation amplitude α of the coherent state is increased, the quantum noise or uncertainty is constant at 1/2, and so becomes less and less significant. In the limit of large field the state becomes a good approximation of a noiseless stable classical wave. The average photon numbers of the three states from bottom to top are <n>=4.2, 25.2, 924.5[5]
ETA.
okay, I'm seeing how this fits..
Remember, these DARPA repeaters/ biosensors use "squeezing"
ie Squeezed Light on Chip
AND, they provide optical cavities..

Quote:
Quantum Zeno dynamics in atoms and cavities - ScienceDirect

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1631070516300561
by S Gleyzes - ‎2016 - ‎Related articles
Jul 22, 2016 - Quantum Zeno Dynamics restricts the evolution of a system in a tailorable subspace of the Hilbert space by ... The coherent state 'collides' on the EC...


The QZD-induced phase inversion accelerates the ‘propagation’ in phase space. When the initial amplitude is such that the field state collides tangentially on the EC [Fig. 1(c)], the parts of the Wigner function that come closest to the EC propagate faster than others. The state is distorted and ends up squeezed.
Just like the ZENO EFFECTs repeated measurements..
is Continuous Homodyne detection
The Zeno effects seems so applicable to Mems technology.

https://arxiv.org/abs/0709.4264

Quote:
We present a theoretical study of a superconducting charge qubit dispersively coupled to a transmission line resonator. Starting from a master equation description of this coupled system and using a polaron transformation, we obtain an exact effective master equation for the qubit. We then use quantum trajectory theory to investigate the measurement of the qubit by continuous homodyne measurement of the resonator out-field. Using the same porlaron transformation, a stochastic master equation for the conditional state of the qubit is obtained. From this result, various definitions of the measurement time are studied. Furthermore, we find that in the limit of strong homodyne measurement, typical quantum trajectories for the qubit exhibit a crossover from diffusive to jump-like behavior. Finally, in the presence of Rabi drive on the qubit, the qubit dynamics is shown to exhibit quantum Zeno behavior
and here it is being used with NV CENTERS... and PARITY PROJECTION..
http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10...30/18/1/013033

Quote:
Using the quantum Zeno effect for suppression of decoherence ...

by Y Kondo - ‎2016 - ‎Cited by 7 - ‎Related articles
Jan 13, 2016 - Using the quantum Zeno effect for suppression of decoherence ..... For example, in [25], they consider a single NV center, and a model similar to ours ..... with the first and second qubits, this provides us with a parity projection.
which seems to be important when coupling NV centers to cavities.. hence electromagnetic fields? and "MODE COUPLING"

Entanglement of separate nitrogen-vacancy centers coupled to a whispering-gallery mode cavity

http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1367-2630/12/11/113039/meta;jsessionid=63C7BDBDEAD4551401A5E30C6A3F674C.c 5.iopscience.cld.iop.org


Mode Coupling

https://www.rp-photonics.com/mode_coupling.html

Quote:
Optical resonators (cavities) can exhibit various kinds of mode coupling phenomena. For example, aberrations of the thermal lens in the gain medium of a solid-state bulk laser couple the modes of the laser resonator, as calculated without these aberrations. In this situation, however, not all involved modes are necessarily resonant at the same time. This means then that the amplitude contribution which is fed e.g. from a fundamental (Gaussian) mode into a particular higher-order resonator mode in each resonator round trip will have a different phase each time. This nonresonant nature of the coupling means that the coupling will in general have a small effect – which is essential for laser operation with high beam quality, since otherwise aberrations would strongly excite higher-order modes, having a higher beam parameter product. Strong resonant coupling can occur in certain situations, involving frequency degeneracies of resonator modes. See Ref. [9] for more details.
so what does this mean ?
Is it the source of entanglement in teleportation where the wavefunction of atomic ensembles are mapped onto photons and coupled to the device for transmission via PHASE ?

http://www.nature.com/nphys/journal/...nphys2631.html
Quote:
Quantum teleportation is a key ingredient in quantum networks1, 2 and one of the building blocks for quantum computation3, 4. Teleportation between distant material objects using light as the quantum-information carrier has been a particularly exciting goal. Here we propose and demonstrate the deterministic continuous-variable teleportation between distant material objects. The objects are macroscopic atomic ensembles at room temperature. Entanglement required for teleportation is distributed by light propagating from one ensemble to the other. We demonstrate that the experimental fidelity of the quantum teleportation is higher than that achievable by any classical process. Furthermore, we demonstrate the benefits of deterministic teleportation by teleporting a sequence of spin states evolving in time from one distant object onto another. The teleportation protocol is applicable to other important systems, such as mechanical oscillators coupled to light or cold spin ensembles coupled to microwaves.
Do our neurons do the same using PHASE ?
is this how they communicate even when not overlapping ?
is this how we sustain coherence, entanglement, hence consciousness too ?


& the atomic ensembles.. are achieved be sub-cellular imaging..
Magnetic spin imaging under ambient conditions with sub-cellular resolution


https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2588

Quote:
The detection of small numbers of magnetic spins is a significant challenge in the life, physical and chemical sciences, especially when room temperature operation is required. Here we show that a proximal nitrogen-vacancy spin ensemble serves as a high precision sensing and imaging array. Monitoring its longitudinal relaxation enables sensing of freely diffusing, unperturbed magnetic ions and molecules in a microfluidic device without applying external magnetic fields. Multiplexed charge-coupled device acquisition and an optimized detection scheme permits direct spin noise imaging of magnetically labelled cellular structures under ambient conditions



which goes right back to DARPA.. and imaging the magnetic fields of firing Neurons

http://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2013-05-02
Quantum-assisted Nano-imaging of Living Organism Is a First

QuASAR program shrinks equipment and removes temperature constraints for high-resolution sensing and imaging at nano-scale



Quote:
Support future drug development by facilitating increased understanding of the structure of proteins.

Enable detailed, three-dimensional mapping of biological molecules, with sufficient sensitivity to identify specific elements. This information could streamline assessment of inhibitor drugs against naturally occurring and bioengineered viruses.

Enable measurement of the magnetic field of firing neurons.
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so after all this, it turns out that's exactly what the Zeno Effect, and SQUEEZED COHERENT STATES, ARE ABOUT.
and Remember, Coherent states help minimize the Uncertainty Principle.

Quote:
Closely related (and sometimes not distinguished from the quantum Zeno effect) is the watchdog effect, in which the time evolution of a system is affected by its continuous coupling to the environment.
Ha.

"WatchDogs" was one of my favorite games recently.. and its coincidentally about HACKING.


OH MY GOD.

I was wondering if The ZENO EFFECT had anything to do with the Turing famous "HALTING PROBLEM".. because the QZE is also called the Turing Paradox..
(notice the Zeno effect REQUIRES MULTIPLE MEASUREMENTS, to do what to the system ?
to FREEZE it..
So There is obviously a connection to the halting problem here.


Quote:
In mathematics and computer science, Zeno machines (abbreviated ZM, and also called accelerated Turing machine, ATM) are a hypothetical computational model related to Turing machines that allows a countably infinite number of algorithmic steps to be performed in finite time. These machines are ruled out in most models of computation.


More formally, a Zeno machine is a Turing machine that takes 2−n units of time to perform its n-th step; thus, the first step takes 0.5 units of time, the second takes 0.25, the third 0.125 and so on, so that after one unit of time, a countably infinite (i.e. ℵ0) number of steps will have been performed.


The idea of Zeno machines was first discussed by Hermann Weyl in 1927; the name refers to Zeno's paradoxes, attributed to the ancient Greek philosopher Zeno of Elea. Zeno machines play a crucial role in some theories.
ALL LINKS
http://losttv-forum.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=266

PROLOGUE
http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/sh...&postcount=203


HOW DO BCIs WORK?
http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/sh...&postcount=204


MAIN WAVEFUNCTION POST
http://losttv-forum.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=221

http://losttv-forum.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=224

http://losttv-forum.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=236

http://losttv-forum.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=238

http://losttv-forum.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=240

http://losttv-forum.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=249

http://losttv-forum.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=251

Teleportation of Nonclassical Wave Packets of light
http://losttv-forum.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=250


https://m.phys.org/news/2015-03-quan...-physical.html
(In the quantum Zeno effect, time evolution caused by quantum decoherence in quantum systems is suppressed by, for example, continuous observation or measurement, interaction with the environment, or stochastic fields. In a chained quantum Zeno effect, a series of secondary splitter/detector loops ensure that there is never a significant probability of decoherence.) "This mind-boggling and highly counterintuitive communication protocol inspired us to think whether quantum information can be transferred counterfactually," Zhang adds, "so in fact, our present scheme can be considered as an incremental extension of Salih's work from classical bit to quantum bit."



VR DREAM ENGINE
http://losttv-forum.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=247


LINKS


MAPPING QUANTUM STATES VIA EMISSION
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms11527

Engineering a controllable coupling between two quantized cavity modes via an ensemble of four-level atoms in the diamond configuration
https://arxiv.org/abs/1608.05282


TRAPPED ION NETWORKS
http://iontrap.umd.edu/research/ion-...ntum-networks/


BRAIN ENTANGLEMENT
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.news...lain-memories/


THEORY OF NONCLASSICAL STATES OF LIGHT

https://books.google.ca/books?id=XIi...0traps&f=false



CSIS/ CSE.* FIVE EYES
https://www.google.ca/amp/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3454617


COUNTERFACTUAL COMM.
https://www.google.ca/amp/wallstreet...communication/


DARPA FUNDED BCI
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...65027014002702

"touch, temperature, pain, and vibration"
"BCI has been utilized to provide neurofeedback to users, enabling them to regulate neural and behavioral functions normally not under volitional control. Such functions include attention, pain, emotion, and memory"



ODD EVEN CAT STATES
ELECTRIC FIELD
SQUEEZING
https://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9312106


QKD. PHOTON
http://latesttechnology.space/scient...nce-of-120-km/


ATOMIC ENSEMBLES ENTANGLED BY PHOTONS
http://news.mit.edu/2015/thousands-a...le-photon-0325


Human Brain Networks: Spiking Neuron Models, Multistability, Synchronization, Thermodynamics, Maximum Entropy Production, and Anesthetic Cascade
http://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/16/7/3939/htm


SCANNING TUNNEL MICROSCOPE SINGLE NEURON
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...3040189500462H
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Ok, I've all but given up on this after four damn years of research

I've asked educated minds, but all of them too, have issues with COLLAPSE and the range of entanglement.

But I still want to pursue this line of thought.
I am pretty DAMN certain, TI's ARE being targeted.
The symptoms are sooooo obviously related to BCI's it CANNOT be coincidence.
and none of them wear EEG devices..
and there ARE electromagnetic fields in neural networks..
Brains really DO have a lot in common with optical networking.
Photons (the EMF) ARE being used to extend entanglement to atomic ensembles in networks.
Neurons in Brains DO communicate via electrical fields, meaning they utilize "uncollapsed", photons. Photonic wavefunctions. PHASE
EEGs hence BCI's measure Electrical Activity.


NV centers ARE being used for MACROSCOPIC ENTANGLEMENT
NV centers ARE ALSO being used in MEMs devices..
MEMs are being used as quantum repeaters to extend entanglement into networks **
NV centers ARE part of optical networking
NV centers ARE being used to probe quantum spins of EMF's
EVEN OF SINGLE NEURONS..

Transmitting information in the PHASE of the WAVEFUNCTION IS POSSIBLE
The QZE IS about PHASE
NV MAGNETOMETRY IS WHAT MEMS DO...
&
"The Quantum Zeno Effect is used in commercial atomic magnetometers"
AND..
THIS LINK SHOWS A DIRECT CONNECTION BETWEEN
NV CENTERS, MAGNETOMETRY, & POLARONS.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3621415/


The QZE IS being used to PROTECT ENTANGLEMENT..
PHASE IS a huge part of HOMODYNE DETECTION..
HOMODYNE DETECTION is used for QKD.. into optical networks

MEMs perform homodyne detection
BioMEMs are being used as "DEPLOYABLE BIOSENSORS"

like WTF !
it may be far fetched, but holy fn SHIT !
This is NOT COINCIDENCE !
TOO MUCH FITS

yet, HOW THE HECK !!!
HOW IS ENTANGLEMENT BEING EXTENDED SO FAR ?
Are there now, Repeater Nodes every 75KM, like cell phone towers ?
HOW IS IT BEING SUSTAINED INDEFINITELY ?
The QZE ? a never collapsing wavefunction ?


Have TPTB somehow, measured a small portion of the Universal Wavefunction.. and now have access to the "channel" ?

We are ALL part of the universe... so if, like background radiation, that wavefunction could be measured without causing collapse (which it DOESN'T in the case of the UWF)..

May this now be possible because of the LHC and finding the HIGGS FIELD/ BOSON ?

HAVE WE FOUND GOD ?

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I mentioned QND earlier in relation to all of this...

Quote:
Here is where it seems to apply to the collapse problem. The very issue most seem to be arguing here...

https://en.wikipedia.org/.../Quantum_nondemolition...
"Note that the term "nondemolition" does not imply that the wave function fails to collapse."

"QND measurements are extremely difficult to carry out experimentally. Much of the investigation into QND measurements was motivated by the desire to avoid the standard quantum limit"

"A quantum limit in physics is a limit on measurement accuracy at quantum scales.

Depending on the context, the limit may be absolute (such as the Heisenberg limit), or it may only apply when the experiment is conducted with naturally occurring quantum states (e.g. the standard quantum limit in interferometry) and can be circumvented with advanced state preparation and measurement schemes"

Now realize this, in DARPAs own words, "Mems devices (ORCHID) have overcome the standard quantum limit."

As do Quantum Zeno Dynamics..
There is no collapse in the phase.

If there was collapse, Microelectromechanical devices, wouldn't be at the core of quantum repeaters, neither would Homodyne Detection.

Mems devices have delicately prepared quantum states.. which apparently can circumvent the measurement problem.

"Homodyne detection is a method of extracting information encoded as modulation of the phase and/or frequency of an oscillating signal, by comparing that signal with a standard oscillation that would be identical to the signal if it carried null information. "Homodyne" signifies a single frequency, "
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Have TPTB somehow, measured a small portion of the Universal Wavefunction.. and now have access to the "channel" ?
This would be my first thought. I'm not sure what else could explain it. Repeaters seems like a way, but I think it would be unsupportable after a certain point. Some researcher (or more likely a team) probably got VERY lucky and stumbled across a narrow portion of the UWF that can be utilized in that way.

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We are ALL part of the universe... so if, like background radiation, that wavefunction could be measured without causing collapse (which it DOESN'T in the case of the UWF)..

May this now be possible because of the LHC and finding the HIGGS FIELD/ BOSON ?

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No kidding, we have Donald Trump in the whitehouse !




Getting back to this elusive wavefunction/phase/ no collapse thing/

I think I found something !

Reading my first post on this page has helped.. I also contacted a bunch of educated minds elsewhere who, like I said myself, share the doubts.
collapse, wavefunctions, measurment, distance..


but look at this !
I was taking a closer look at
"polaron transformation"
because of this.. remember, they successfully sent an image without sending a particle. and it had everything to do with utilizing the Quantum Zeno Effect &
"Counterfactual Communication".

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We present a theoretical study of a superconducting charge qubit dispersively coupled to a transmission line resonator. Starting from a master equation description (this has GOT to be another way of saying : WAVEFUNCTION ) of this coupled system and using a polaron transformation, we obtain an exact effective master equation for the qubit.

We then use quantum trajectory theory to investigate the measurement of the qubit by continuous homodyne measurement of the resonator out-field. Using the same porlaron transformation, a stochastic master equation for the conditional state of the qubit is obtained. From this result, various definitions of the measurement time are studied.

Furthermore, we find that in the limit of strong homodyne measurement, typical quantum trajectories for the qubit exhibit a crossover from diffusive to jump-like behavior. Finally, in the presence of Rabi drive on the qubit, the qubit dynamics is shown to exhibit quantum Zeno behavior
so I asked myself, WTF IS a POLARON ?

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A polaron is a quasiparticle used in condensed matter physics to understand the interactions between electrons and atoms in a solid material. The polaron concept was first proposed by Lev Landau in 1933 to describe an electron moving in a dielectric crystal where the atoms move from their equilibrium positions to effectively screen the charge of an electron, known as a phonon cloud
now earlier, I actually USED this idea in the measurement of atomic ensembles in Neurons, by causing Cooper Pairs to form in the Microtubules..
by electron-phonon interaction..
exposing Neurons to sound.. "WAVES".. or in our interests here, PHASE.

exciting then cooling(LOWERING) the electrons into MEMs resonators cavities.. into their GROUND STATES.. so they could be measured like "macroscopic superconducting systems"

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The general concept of a polaron has been extended to describe other interactions between the electrons and ions in metals that result in a bound state, or a lowering of energy compared to the non-interacting system.
& from the same source..
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Organic semiconductors are also sensitive to polaronic effects, which is particularly relevant in the design of organic solar cells that effectively transport charge.
so Microtubules MUST be able to be considered "ORGANIC SEMICONDUCTORS"
and solar cells, like leaves, have BIOLOGICAL COHERENT STATES and are now thought to utilize ENTANGLEMENT
(This is the current debate with Quantum Mind theories)


so I wondered, are POLARONS ever used with NV centers ?


They are quasiparticles.. and HOLES are what the defects in Nanodiamonds are.
They are nitrogen vacancies.

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A hole is a quasiparticle consisting of the lack of an electron in a state; it is most commonly used in the context of empty states in the valence band of a semiconductor. A hole has the opposite charge of an electron

& Does Counterfactual Communication have anything to do with Polarons ?
http://www.pnas.org/content/114/19/4920.abstract


Either way REMEMBER :
The MAIN IDEA Of this hypothesis has ALWAYS BEEN :
THE TELEPORTATION OF QUANTUM STATES/ THE WAVEFUNCTION of a portion of the brain.. via repeated measurements or continuous homodyne detection of the spatio-temporal modes/ electromagnetic fields of EEG "target" Neurons.

ie : http://www.2physics.com/2012/09/the-...tum-light.html

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Similar to water, a state of light does not possess a definite shape, but rather assumes that of the container that it occupies. In particular, any quantum state of light is a specific way of “filling” an empty container, the mode, which describes the spatiotemporal shape of the electromagnetic field. Any quantum state, like a single photon (the filling of the container with just a single quantum of excitation), can thus come in many different shapes, according to the shape of the mode it occupies.
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We tested the procedure with single photons of the duration of a few tens of femtoseconds that were generated under different conditions so that their spectrotemporal mode presented a variety of modulations [4,5]. In all cases we were able to completely map the photon wavepacket mode -- that is its spectral and temporal intensity/phase profile -- onto that of an intense coherent light pulse
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Interestingly, the scheme is not limited to the measurement of the spectral and temporal shape, and it is certainly not confined to using single photons
so with this Counterfactual technique, those fields, remain FIELDs/ wavefunctions.

Because..
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Each component wave function, and hence the wave packet, are solutions of a wave equation.
a wavepacket, IS the wavefunction !!!

SEE: https://www.physicsforums.com/thread...nction.265669/



and low and behold..
Counterfactual attack on counterfactual quantum key distribution

http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1209/0295-5075/98/30012?utm_source=Trendmd&utm_medium=Ppc

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Abstract

It is interesting that counterfactual quantum cryptography protocols allow two remotely separated parties to share a secret key without transmitting any signal particles. Generally, these protocols, expected to provide security advantages, base their security on a translated no-cloning theorem. Therefore, they potentially exhibit unconditional security in theory. In this letter, we propose a new Trojan horse attack, by which an eavesdropper Eve can gain full information about the key without being noticed, to real implementations of a counterfactual quantum cryptography system. Most importantly, the presented attack is available even if the system has negligible imperfections. Therefore, it shows that the present realization of counterfactual quantum key distribution is vulnerable.
so using this non-collapse trick.. The QZE.. in Counterfactual Communication..
YOUR Quantum Key can be eavesdropped on !

NO COLLAPSE OF THE WAVEFUNCTION
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I don't want to harp too much on a single note, but....

Other than the practical difficulties of growing identical crystals, what advantages does this offer over crystal resonance, in terms of FTL info transfer?

It seems like it would be more difficult both in conception and in application to try to replicate an unknown crystalline structure than to narrow in on an "entanglement bandwidth" - i know i use that term in ignorance, but i hope it conveys the concept well enough.

But maybe a bigger issue is that waveform collapse might not reach critical importance when dealing with what are relatively short distances.
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This is why I've given up.

I can't figure it out.
Entanglement doesn't work like this as far as I know.

Its always evaporating or "limited" as far as recent breakthroughs go. Which is very odd cause its supposed to be a force that could affect particles at opposite ends of the universe.

Like why is the top RECORDED distance 75km ?

Quantum repeaters are being used to extend distance... I thought I almost understood it man.

Ill post some debating about it.

What these critiques said, I too have questioned.

I think the secret is truly in the phase, the wavefunction itself, and somehow, its being protected.

Its nonlocal and FTL. There is absolutely no delay.

Its as if neurons from different people can themselves become entangled.

And that just might answer how its being protected.
Our own brains do it all our lives.
I think its the point to mylenation.

Consciousness itself MUST be an emergent effect due to entanglement.
Not that it disappears when we sleep.. but I think, in some way, bits decohere from the quorum we are consciouss because of..
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Btw Mo.

"Crystal Resonance" is laymenly exactly what NV MAGNETOMETRY is.
They grow nanodiamonds using compressed gas.
They then ensure the quantum States of the Mems device are finely tuned and prepared.
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Well, if they've got the tech to produce crystals that can resonate properly, and that tech is already advanced to the point that a crystal as durable as freaking diamonds can be used for it, then WTF is the hold-up? Using high-speed binary as a comm protocol is simple enough. Shit, they could use morse code and it would still zip info across intergalactic distances faster than a telegraph can get sent across the Atlantic! Granted, somebody has to go place the crystals into relatively safe places, but shit, start small - think of the advantages of having real-time commlinks with Martian explorers and settlers! Then start thinking a little bigger. There have to be relatively secure orbital points between Pluto/Charon and the Oort cloud, why not send a probe out there with a transmitter crystal?

Why do we always feel the need to weaponize this kind of shit BEFORE we even consider using it to improve our knowledge of the universe or even the solar system? That probe and transmitter could some day literally save the life of all of Earth!

No wonder you often want to give up. Human nature sure seems like 50 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag some times.
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I think its like a poker game right now.
Nobody at the DOD wants to show their hand yet.
This could change EVERYTHING.



For now..
I want to explore this idea about preventing wavefunction collapse


Ie: Counterfactual attacks on quantum key distribution
https://www.osapublishing.org/josab/...josab-33-4-663

Or... Counterfacual Entanglement

https://www.osapublishing.org/oe/abs...i=oe-22-8-8970

Or.. Protecting Entanglement with the Quantum Zeno Effect
(Which is part of Counterfactual Communication)
https://arxiv.org/abs/0710.3914

Now TO ME, Counterfactual Commincation or at least the QZE, is pretty much identical to the DELAYED CHOICE QUANTUM ERASURE..

https://youtu.be/U7Z_TIw9InA

The entire idea is to prevent collapse, sustaining the interference patterns. There is so much info in this already.
Even the ability to DECOUPLE a particle from its environment, sustaining coherence times and preventing decoherence/ wavefunction collapse


ETA.

Ok. Going back to this idea.

Much earlier I brought up Compressive sensing in relation to measuring WAVEFUNCTIONS.

Compressive sensing is how they finally were able to "capture the elusive wavefunction" of a particle.

Now compressive sensing, is, essentially, SQUEEZING.
HENCE THE "COMPRESSIVE"
Here a RELATED article:
http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.../9/095022/meta



there is something HUGE here!
DARPAS biomems are SQUEEZED LIGHT ON CHIP, and they can measure quantum States...



Just to LAYMEN this entire science

Imagine a particle in a hotel room. It's phase space.
But your not allowed to find the room its in, or it will collapse.
It will cease to exist, the way you want it to anyway.. as far as protecting entanglement goes

Now this hotel, has "100" rooms.
So you make 99 measurements.
You go room to room and check all the rooms its NOT in.
So in the end, without ever actually OBSERVING it.
You know the only room it can be in.
Then you have its wavefunction.

that's the ZENO EFFECT.

Here's wikis way of looking at that idea.


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It was later shown that the quantum Zeno effect of a single system is equivalent to the indetermination of the quantum state of a single system
Indetermination. seems a lot like NOT knowing what room the particle will be in.
so you check a near infinite amount of them.
without actually observing it.

that why we can it the "expectation value" and probability.. its the expectation that causes collapse of the wavefunction..
odd.

I just contradicted myself.

is this the nature of the entire paradox ?


seems like it !

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One realization refers to the observation of an object (Zeno's arrow, or any quantum particle) as it leaves some region of space. In the 20th century, the trapping (confinement) of a particle in some region by its observation outside the region was considered as nonsensical, indicating some non-completeness of quantum mechanics.[27] Even as late as 2001, confinement by absorption was considered as a paradox.[28] Later, similar effects of the suppression of Raman scattering was considered an expected effect,[29][30][31] not a paradox at all.
so your not counting the photons IN the box. or the "room"..
your observing the states of it outside the room, collapsing them, FREEZING THEM..
as per ZENO.. leaving the wavefunction, IN THE BOX/ROOM

IN THE HOLES!
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Now.. once I cover enough ground above regarding preventing wavefunction collapse... it should become more obvious my "Hypothesis Prologue"
Is accurate.

It IS possible to create entanglement based, covert, BCIs.

Which brings us back to the POTENTIALS table..

If we can connect to living, functioning BRAINS...
Then its not hard to imagine using stem cells to GROW brains ON Mems devices.. protecting them with some robotic skull, myelation and even cold temperatures.. then entangle to those exocortex's neurons using the same "QZE, homodyning electric fields"* methods, and utilize them either in offworld/ on planet Hybrid robots or in repeater stations throughout space.. extending entanglement and hopefully even teleporting ENERGY back to earth as harvested by those "Avatars"

Ie: Neurons can be forced into action potentials by millivolts applied to external ion traps where NV centers are entangled to atomic ensembles inside living neurons.. or by increasing the mv levels of the electric fields themselves..

So might it then be possible to custom design organic neurons that could withstand and thus teleport, Gigavolts?
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