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Old 11-03-06, 11:45 AM   #841
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just stupid, Eko was the last Tailie and now hes dead, so what the hell was the point of wasting my time with 12 eps of dead chars now, dumb dumb
I made the point last season that they'd introduced the Tailies and killed two of them off before the season was over. I used it as my explanation of just one of the ways the writers seemed to be treading water and going around in circles last season. This season has a lot more forward momentum, and Eko's death at least seems significant rather than a way of getting rid of two troublesome cast members and popping a rating during sweeps.
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Old 11-03-06, 12:13 PM   #842
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So am I the only person who has enjoyed some great films where the hero dies at the end ??????
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Old 11-03-06, 12:21 PM   #843
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Couple of questions.

Why did Eko put mud on his wound while he was at the stream?

We now have seen five eposodes at the others location. Where is Bea Klugh? In Three Minutes she seamed to play such an important role.
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Old 11-03-06, 01:00 PM   #844
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I don't think Locke will die. Not soon, if at all.

But on to more pressing matters:

What does this say about the 'monster' and God? This episode definitely had a religious bent, from Ben's line to the whole judgement thing. Is the 'monster' god, or the island's equivalent? And what's up with the chain noises it makes!?!?
I would guess the chains are what kept the monster in check along with the EMF which is now gone so I guess Desmond really was "just saving the world" maybe the Dharma folks found a way to keep the devil (the monster) under control but now the losties have set it free to destroy the world? The first person it goes after is the one building a church. Just my thoughts.
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Why did Eko put mud on his wound while he was at the stream?
I think it's some African thing. Didn't American Indians do that in old westerns also? It is supposed to suck out the poison or something.
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it dries out the leaking blood till it coagulates
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S3E5 “THE COST OF LIVING”

BIG QUESTIONS:
Juliet: “I hate funerals” How many has she been to?
Dead Others get a burial at sea?
Do they do the burial at sea so that their dearly departed don't get absorbed by the islands and become smokey ghosts?
Why didn’t Locke go tracking Eko as soon as he was missing?
Did Smokey retreat because of Eko or Locke?
Does Smokey come from Dharma or is it something different altogether? And is he (smokey) now free from the pull of the EMF to do his killing?Juliet: “Some of us want a change” so how are the Others divided, those who like Ben vs. those who don’t?
Why were they trying to break Jack? To get him to do the surgery? But now they’re just going to ask him outright?
How does Ben know what Jack’s ex-wife looked like?
Does Juliet know she was being used to “soften” Jack because of her resemblance to Sarah?
Who is the one-eyed man in the monitor?
Why is no one STILL not looking for J/K/S???
What is to be gained from Eko’s death? What a terrible waste of a character!!!

QUESTIONS ANSWERED:
Locke saw a bright light when he looked into the eye of the island, and it was beautiful.
Eko was building a church because he owed Yemi one.
Smokey is capable of killing. And if Smokey only makes that noise when he is hunting someone or killing someone than when our losties first landed, who was smokey after then? Who was he after all the other times we've heard him and none of our losties are unaccounted for..hummm

QUESTIONS SOMEONE SHOULD HAVE ASKED:
Who are these two redshirts and why are they whining about being left out?
Wonder where Michael is? (are we to assume Hurley told everyone everything?)

BEHIND THE EP TITLE:
The cost of protecting Yemi = Eko’s life?
The cost of trying to save Ben’s life = Jack’s freedom?

SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF:
Sayid would agree to go with Hurley and Charlie to check in with Locke, leaving Eko alone in the tent.
No one in the village recognized Eko as one of the drug gang?
No one will find Juliet’s videotape and posterboards?
Didn’t anyone wonder how Eko died?
Sayid would go along with Locke’s lame plan instead of going out to find J/S/K?
A new redshirt would make the connection between the TVs and Dr. Wickman’s comments, instead of SAYID (or even Locke) making the connection?


PARALLEL LINES/SCENES:
Yemi and Eko to each other: “Brother”/Desmond to Jack et al: “Brother”
Ben to Jack: “Why are you asking me all these questions?”/Michael to Miss Klugh: same
Daniel to Eko: “Shhhh” and finger to lips/Walt to Shannon: “Shhhh” and finger to lips
Locke to Desmond: “Don’t mistake coincidence for fate”/Eko to Locke: same
Locke to Hurley: “I’m not Jack”/Eko to Daniel: “I’m not Father Yemi”
Jack to Ben: “Why are you telling me this?”/Jack to Sawyer:”Why are you telling me this?” (when Ana died and Sawyer confessed their adventure)
Dead Yemi appearing to Eko/Dead Christian Shepherd appearing to Jack

POP CULTURE REFERENCES:
To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee

LOST COLORS:
Red flowers in field (Eko’s non-confession scene)

LOST FOOD:
Cheeseburger and fries

LOST LOCATIONS:
London (Yemi studying)

NUMBERS:
Eko out for a couple of days
Meet Locke at the tree line in 10 minutes
Locke: Kill 2 birds with 1 stone
Ben’s tumor was discovered 2 days after 815 crashed
The villagers keep 20% of the vaccines
Village girl on phone, “Call back in 2 days”
Vaccines arrive every 6 months
Juliet, “That’s my 2 cents.”

MUSIC:
Patsy Cline music at Colleen’s funeral? Truly weird.
Eko in church: music had similar chord progressions as “Life Given, Life Taken” theme

FAVORITE LINES:
Jack: “I’m not big into mysteries.”

GREAT CINEMATOGRAPHY:
Eko under tree with mountains in the background
Eko and Yemi in field of red flowers

KLEENEX MOMENTS:
EKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had no idea this was coming. I never really understood his character, but what a phenomenal actor AAA has been. I will miss his gigantic presence.

SERIOUSLY CREEPY:
Ben asking Jack to come to the funeral. Why?
Juliet and her video and signs. I don’t trust her.
Locke (from Eko): “We’re next”
The one-eyed man in the monitor!
Smokey grabbing Eko; that was just awful.

MINOR QUESTIONS:
Was the actress who played the nun the same actress who played Miss Klugh?
Didn’t Eko and Charlie burn the Nigerian plane?

JUST CAN’T WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THIS
Yemi to Eko: “You speak to me as if I’m your brother” (is that because “Yemi” was Smokey? If Eko confessed, would Smokey have spared him?) So when Jack saw his dead father in S1 “White Rabbit,” was the vision really Smokey?

CHARACTERS

Jack: Hang tough. Do not cave to Juliet’s wiles.

Sayid: YAY SAYID!!!!!!!!!!! MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE OF SAYID, PLEASE!

Ben: Seriously disturbed, gets worse every episode. Please make him go away; I keep having nightmares about him.

Juliet: Still don’t like her. Still don’t trust her.

Locke: He is just getting on my nerves! What a pest when Eko was obviously needing some quiet for his private thoughts. What a lame plan, to email the Others in hopes of rescuing J/S/K.

Desmond: I just love Desmond! Love it that he’s in on adventures now!

Young Eko: Great casting; the boy really looks like a young version of AAA

Paolo: WHAT A DOOFUS.

The new girl redshirt:
To Paolo: “You keep whining about being left out.” OK, that is a little bit of an explanation as to why they’re both here, but they REALLY need to go.

Vincent: Still no Vincent! And no, he isn’t on the boat with Michael and Walt! A Vincent scene would far surpass any scene with Paolo.

SUMMARY:
Oh my, still can’t get over Eko…I still can’t figure out Locke…I’m frustrated with the lack of concern over J/S/K…I don’t want Jack to fall for Juliet…lots going on in this very complicated episode, so I liked it!

PS Once again, I thought the gorilla commercial was the next scene!
I made a few notes above in red.
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Old 11-03-06, 02:41 PM   #848
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Why is everyone lamenting the demise of Eko? He was not a good man. He was a drug dealer and gang leader. No telling how many people he killed, maimed and tortured in between the time they took him as a little boy and when he started posing as a priest. Remember, he was not a priest. He was only posing as one to smuggle drugs out of the country and then realized that by posing he could save his sorry ass from jail (at the plane) and later to sell the village's vaccines and escape to London. He deserved to be stomped to death by Smokey.
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Bloody hell 800 plus posts i had to skip a few, but the majority seem to think that smokie is real and is producing the halusinations ( SP ) but what if smokie is the halusination being used to justify accidents i.e group halusination? Eko slips breaks his neck or dies from injuries Lock sees white light Eko sees dark smoke .pos due to mental state of mind alla acid trip if you think bad thoughts or feel low you wil have the corrisponding trip)
This is exactly what i think of Smokey.

Why does it have to be a 'real' monster? I dont think the producers want us to think this.

I think Smokey is a representation of the characters guilt. I think Eko died the way he did because HE wanted to be punished. After all these years of guilt from his childhood, he didnt apologise for this, as he explained it was the hand that he was dealt. BUT, he did actually kill nevertheless, and being a spiritual man, wanted to be punished. He wanted to die.

If i remember correctly, it reminds me of the film "Ghost", when the "shadow" kills the evil actor.

I dont think Smokey is meant to be taken literally.

Just my thought anyway! I shall wait and see!

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Old 11-03-06, 03:06 PM   #850
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Why is everyone lamenting the demise of Eko?
I lament his demise because AAA is a phenominal actor who had a great story line. Sure, he was a bad dude in the past, but at least his character was INTERESTING. Now we're left with Paulo and Nikki who are just absolutely horrible!!! I'm disgusted with the whole thing.
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