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Old 02-05-09, 02:54 PM   #21
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Re: How Come Danielle Didn't Remember Jin?

Desmond met Daniel for a couple of minutes while he was in the hatch, and promptly forgot the memory until 2007. Danielle's party might "forget" Jin as well.
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Old 02-05-09, 03:10 PM   #22
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Re: How Come Danielle Didn't Remember Jin?

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Desmond met Daniel for a couple of minutes while he was in the hatch, and promptly forgot the memory until 2007. Danielle's party might "forget" Jin as well.

They didn't recognize Jin for the same reason that Richard didn't recognize Locke in 1954.

The flash was to when Rousseau first arrived on the island. Uh, had they met Jin then?

Think about it.

Ethan didn't remember Locke either....but Locke remembered him.

Our guys are skipping through time.

The reason Widmore can remember Locke, etc....is that he is old man Widmore off the island in the future....not part of the time-skipping event. For him, since he is off the island in the future, it is a memory from the past. If Locke were to time skip back to 1948 next and encounter Widmore on the island again, he wouldn't remember him then either.
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Re: How Come Danielle Didn't Remember Jin?

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Desmond met Daniel for a couple of minutes while he was in the hatch, and promptly forgot the memory until 2007. Danielle's party might "forget" Jin as well.
Hmmmmmm.

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Old 02-05-09, 03:20 PM   #24
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Re: How Come Danielle Didn't Remember Jin?

Also, remember what happened to Desmond. He didn't have the "memory" of Faraday visting him in the hatch until it happened "later" (in the "present"). But, who knows because for Desmond "the rules don't apply"
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Also, remember what happened to Desmond. He didn't have the "memory" of Faraday visting him in the hatch until it happened "later" (in the "present"). But, who knows because for Desmond "the rules don't apply"

Yes, he had the memory OFF island. That is the key.

If our losties time skip and meet you on the island....and you are off the island in the future....it becomes a memory for you.

This explains what Old man Widmore meant when he told Ben about having bad dreams...nightmares, or whatever.
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Re: How Come Danielle Didn't Remember Jin?

Jin was pretty messed up when Danielle's crew pulled him out of the water. I think she would be hard pressed to match what he looked like then to what "healthy Jin" looks like 16 years later.

Plus the two never really interacted in 2004.

Although, if he ends up spending a lot of time with Danielle in the past then it seems like she should have remembered him.
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I was thinking more of when Daniel knocked on the hatch and talked to Desmond. Desmond didn't remember until right after we saw them speak. So, I think if Danielle was still alive, she may "now" have remembered meeting Jin in the past.
Yes, that. Just like Desmond waking up with a "new" memory.

Anybody notice the male/female name pairs? Daniel/Danielle, Charlie/Charlotte? Probably means nothing.
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Re: How Come Danielle Didn't Remember Jin?

Besides the shortness of their likely visit, and the fact that Danielle will quite possibly assume he's one of the others what with his mysterious evaporation, I've got to go with two explanations: If you aren't starting out with time travel as an assumption for any strangers you encounter, the fact that a bunch of people crash on the island 16 years later, and one of them is an Asian guy also named Jin, you don't assume it's the same guy. Second, with everything else that's about to happen in her next few weeks, I don't think she's going to carve Jin's face into her memory.
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Re: How Come Danielle Didn't Remember Jin?

I don't think Danielle and Jin exchanged any dialogue or were even in a scene together that wasn't a large-crowd scene in the first four seasons. Maybe he was just another face in the crowd to her. The only possible scenes I can think of where they would have both been in the same place at the same time:

S1: Rousseau comes to warn them of the black smoke and the others, Jin is there amongst all the other survivors.

S3: Jack takes a crew of people out to show them his little tree-blowing-up project he's been working on. Was Jin even part of that group?

S4: The big scene at the cockpit. It was dark, rainy, and the drama of Jack trying to kill Locke and then Hurley's big speech would've easily obscured them.

Am I missing any?

(Then again, it may not matter that they haven't met before. Locke and Juliet seemed to know each other when he rescued them from Widmore & Co., but I'm pretty sure they'd never been in a scene together before that one.)
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Re: How Come Danielle Didn't Remember Jin?

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They didn't recognize Jin for the same reason that Richard didn't recognize Locke in 1954.

The flash was to when Rousseau first arrived on the island. Uh, had they met Jin then?

Think about it.

Ethan didn't remember Locke either....but Locke remembered him.

Our guys are skipping through time.

The reason Widmore can remember Locke, etc....is that he is old man Widmore off the island in the future....not part of the time-skipping event. For him, since he is off the island in the future, it is a memory from the past. If Locke were to time skip back to 1948 next and encounter Widmore on the island again, he wouldn't remember him then either.
Thank you for confirming my thoughts about that scene. Jin will remember Danielle but probably be a bit confused as to why she appears younger. Danielle can't remember him because she hasn't met him yet.
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