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Old 07-16-17, 08:02 PM   #361
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Aren't you in support of this? It's from your beloved GOP. Do you believe what you're posting or are you playing some kind of troll game? Love the av, btw, very fitting, Donald Bonaparte. Not sure what he's doing to that poor horse, though.
Not a game! I was an outspoken liberal until this election. Donald Trump, to me, has a lot of great leadership qualities. I didn't see it at first, I HATED him when he announced his candidacy. But the media game really forced me to reassess. I see now what the Democrats really campaign/run on, and it isn't any type of policy and rhetoric that I will stand for. Ever.
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Old 07-16-17, 08:18 PM   #362
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I guess we're lucky that there weren't more Republicans on the bench.
Kennedy, the Republican nominated by Reagan, was the deciding justice who turned the ruling 5-4 in favor of legalizing gay marriage.
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Old 07-16-17, 08:23 PM   #363
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Yeah, read the dissenting comments by his republican colleagues. A couple more of those like-minded individuals would have killed it. Like I said, lucky.
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Old 07-16-17, 09:09 PM   #364
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Old 07-16-17, 10:58 PM   #365
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You're being fooled.

And it is sad.

Really, you think someone like Trump could give two shits about you, or about Americans.

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vonne - this is the dangerous thinking that I think is part of the social adversarial relationships that have been reinforced in the last couple decades. I watched that "Requiem for an American Dream" on Netflix the other day by Chomsky. He had some good points. But the major flaw is that he assumes this kind of "group think" among the wealthy. "Well, see, the wealthy get together and donate to campaigns to get who they want elected, so that they can write laws that benefit the wealthy even more, so they have even more money to get elected.." etc.

But he talks about it like the 1% all get together a couple times a year and decide what they want, but of course it's not like that at all. But it's this type of lumping individuals together into groups and then stereotyping those groups is what's so dangerous. It's what creates a lack of empathy - whether it's blacks or immigrants or cops or the poor or the homeless or Democrats or Republicans.
I think there's a strong point here. My blatherings about the dangers of dichotomized perspective were never intended to relate solely to LOST. If anything, i was trying to push a political message through in an acceptable way in a place where blatant political discussions weren't tolerated.

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What IS true is that you're never going to get rid of the "ruling class". It just doesn't work that way. Once a person or organization has the resources to get to that point, they most certainly have the resources to find other people or organizations to help them stay there. I'm no history major, but as far as I can tell a ruling class has existed in pretty much every modern society, including "socialist" countries like Cuba, Russia and China. Bet your ass the Waltons would be plenty rich in Sanders' or Warren's America, too.
I think that there's a grain of truth to this as it relates to our consumption-obsessed society NOW. But overall i disagree, and as for those countries listed, not one was every truly aimed at creating a socialist state. Politicians used socialist rhetoric to gain popular support for their totalitarian regimes.

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Also semi-eyerolling at you scot, voter suppression because you can't carpool with churches on Sunday? How is that suppression? Again...it's just a kind of crappy law, dictating that places aren't open on Sunday. So you vote a different day. You aren't prevented from voting. If voting is that important to you, WALK 10 miles to vote if you had to. It is your responsibility to vote. The churches can hold their ridesharing on different days.

And there are laws in place to protect employees from not being able to vote, if they work during polling hours. People are legally allowed to leave in order to go vote, so I'm not sure I buy MO's excuse for busy moms either. Sheesh. It's like ya'l are mad that voting isn't done through a swipe on a smartphone app something. Yeah, it takes effort to vote. Jury duty is also inconvenient, who cares?
When you make voting more and more difficult for the poor, the disabled, and the less fortunate in general, that's a form of voter suppression.
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Wrong! Trump does care about Americans. He has a huge ego and a ton of pride for his country. You think he wants to sit around in 4, or 8 years and discuss how much worse off America is, to his millionaire friends? Like Robert Kraft? He WANTS to do good, he is motivated to preserve what he believes is American integrity.

You think it's easy for him to be President? All that campaigning, visiting all those states, putting up with all of the crazy media, frustrating him daily? Why would any successful billionaire put himself through this, if he didn't think he could do a better job?

And actually, he's been saying it since Obama's first term. Saying Obama was weakening America, he disagreed with most of his foreign policy, etc. Trump has always believed he could do better. And finally he rode down that escalator in Trump Tower and declared to the American people that he intended to do better, if they'd only give him the chance. The rest is history.
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He sure fooled a lot of people.

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THE CURSE OF VIOLENT CRIME IN DEMOCRAT-RUN CITIES
And how one city broke that curse.


America's ten most dangerous cities—as measured by federal crime statistics—have one highly notable feature in common: All are led politically by Democratic mayors. Most, in fact, have been controlled by Democrats for a very long time. For example, Detroit, which in 2015 ranked as the nation's most dangerous city, has not had a Republican mayor since 1961. The second most dangerous city in 2015 was Oakland, California, a Democrat stronghold since 1977. Third was Memphis, in Democratic hands since 1991. Fourth was St. Louis, which has been led exclusively by Democratic mayors since 1949. Fifth was Cleveland, where no Republican has been mayor since 1989. Sixth was Baltimore, Democrat-led since 1967. Seventh was Milwaukee, which has elected only Democratic mayors since 1908. Eighth was Birmingham, which has been Democrat-run since 1975. Ninth was Newark, a Democrat bastion since 1933. And tenth was Kansas City, Missouri, which has not seen a Republican mayor in a quarter-century.

New York City, which in the early 1990s transitioned away from nearly half a century of Democratic leadership, serves as a case study not only of how left-wing law-enforcement policies helped breed crime and chaos for a long period of time, but also how the cessation of those policies caused crime to plummet almost instantly.

From 1946 through 1993, New York was led, in succession, by the following Democratic mayors: William O'Dwyer, Vincent Impellitteri, Robert Wagner, John Lindsay, Abraham Beame, Ed Koch, and David Dinkins. Under the stewardship of these men, the city's crime rates rose sharply and consistently, as reflected most starkly in its homicide statistics. In 1960, some 482 homicides occurred within the confines of New York's five boroughs. By 1970, that figure had risen to 1,117. In 1980, it was 1,814. The apex was reached under Mayor Dinkins in 1990, when 2,245 people lost their lives to violence. During the ensuing three years of Dinkins' mayoralty, the city's homicide totals were 2,154, then 1,995, and finally 1,946.

Throughout his four years in office, Mayor Dinkins repeatedly demonstrated weakness and indecision in dealing with criminals. In some cases, he seemed to be openly at odds with the city's police force. For instance, in the early 1990s a Dinkins administration brochure informed its readers that there “won't be peace” until the police stop running “young men of color … off the streets.”

Dinkins' ineffectiveness in dealing with crime had a profound effect on the quality of life in New York, as the incidence of violence in the city reached an all-time high. In 1989, before Dinkins took office, New York was ranked seventh in the Places Rated Almanac, which rates cities for their overall livability. By 1993, as Dinkins' term drew to a close, the city had slipped to 105th in the rankings. A 1993 poll of New Yorkers found that 59% felt that life in the city had gotten worse on the mayor's watch, while just 8% thought it had improved.

Republican Rudolph Giuliani replaced Dinkins as mayor in 1994 and quickly transformed New York into the safest big city in America. He did this chiefly by increasing the NYPD's manpower from 28,000 officers to 40,000, and adopting a zero-tolerance approach to crime-fighting. Toward that end, Giuliani hired William Bratton as his police chief. Bratton was a proponent of the “broken windows” criminological theory which contends that maintaining urban environments in a well-ordered condition—and clamping down on petty crimes—ultimately helps prevent not only low-level vandalism, but also the commission of more serious offenses. Thus Bratton instructed police to more strictly enforce existing laws against such relatively minor infractions as subway-fare evasion, public drinking, public urination, and shakedown operations by “squeegee men” demanding payment in exchange for their unsolicited wiping of the windshields on cars stopped at red lights.


Another vital component of Giuliani's crime-fighting approach was the use of COMPSTAT, an organizational management tool that employs Geographic Information Systems to map crime and identify specific problem areas. In weekly meetings, NYPD executives met with local precinct commanders to discuss the problems revealed by COMPSTAT and devise strategies to deal with them.

The results of Giuliani's efforts were extraordinary, as evidenced by the fact that during his eight years in office, the incidence of homicide in the city fell dramatically, from 1,946 in Dinkins' final year as mayor, to 1,561 in 1994, to 1,177 in 1995, to 983 in 1996, to 770 in 1997, to 633 in 1998, to 671 in 1999, to 673 in 2000, to 649 in 2001.

When Republican Michael Bloomberg succeeded Giuliani as mayor in 2002, he continued the same anti-crime strategies as his predecessor. As a result, homicide rates in the city fell even lower, with totals of 587 in 2002; 597 in 2003; 570 in 2004; 539 in 2005; 596 in 2006; 496 in 2007; 523 in 2008; 471 in 2009; 536 in 2010; 515 in 2011; 419 in 2012; and 335 in 2013.

When Democrat Bill de Blasio succeeded Bloomberg as mayor of New York in 2014, he appointed William Bratton as his chief of police. Despite some changes, most of the Giuliani-Bloomberg policies remained more-or-less in force, and New York's homicide rate stayed at about the level at which it had been when Bloomberg left office.

Those who benefited most, by far, from the policies put in place by Giuliani (and later Bloomberg), were the black and Hispanic residents of such traditionally high-crime areas as Brooklyn's 75th Precinct, Bedford-Stuyvesant's 81st Precinct, and Harlem's 28th Precinct. Indeed, blacks and Hispanics accounted for 79% of the decline in homicide victims citywide between 1993 and 2011. Manhattan Institute Fellow Heather Mac Donald estimates that “more than 10,000 black and Hispanic males avoided the premature death that would have been their fate had New York's homicide rate remained at its early-1990s apex.” Also between 1993 and 2011, the number of rapes that occurred annually in New York City declined by 54.8%; robberies fell by 80.3%; felony assaults dropped by 57.8%; and burglaries were reduced by 84.6%. This means that many tens of thousands of black and Hispanic would-be victims were spared the anguish associated with those crimes as well.

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But it is the Democrats who are seen as the saviors of minorities - not true. Crime and poverty continued to grow in almost all urban areas during Obama's 8 years.

What did Democrats do for them? 0.
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Where is Kelly? I need some more Jason insights. Show him my new sig and ask him what he thinks of it.
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