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Old 04-18-17, 09:42 PM   #211
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not the thread for humor man.

People are killing themselves or others because of this technology and the crimes being committed with it.

Read any of these links.
There is a growing concern this is possible. and it IS being done.

https://www.wired.com/2012/12/the-ne...is-your-brain/

http://www.livescience.com/37938-how...be-hacked.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...l-signals.html

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...sensitive-data

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-implants.html



These are the BIGGEST CRIMES EVER COMMITTED AGAINST HUMAN BEINGS

You'd have to be a MORON to not think I HAVE figured something out here.
Its FRIGGIN OBVIOUS that some form of remote BCI is responsible for EVERY SINGLE "SYMPTOM"
It ain't wifi or bluetooth!!

VOICES IN THE HEAD = BRAIN TO BRAIN COMMUNICATION

SEEING THROUGH YOUR OWN EYES = BCI BASED REAL TIME RECONSTRUCTED VISION

INDUCED DREAMS = BCI BASED NEUROGAMING

This is not a joke or something to be taken litely.
Most of these victims are NOT mentally ill. Its not schizophrenia.
Its TECHNOLOGY

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Hell, even FACEBOOK is entering the mind reading/ BCI business..

https://futurism.com/facebook-just-r...e-main-points/
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Just posting this to pull from later




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Right now there is a debate about whether or not the brain uses entanglement. I say it does, 100%.
So Why is this "quantum mechanical" detail even important to BCIs ?
It is the BIGGEST breakthrough BCI's will EVER have!
NO IMPLANTS. NO NEURAL LACE.
An ENTANGLEMENT based merger of man and machine.

I will explain.

The brain communicates with electric fields. This is a FACT.
http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/news/20...rain-cells.asp
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Electric fields are an essential and integral part of the functioning of a living brain.

In a new paper, published in top journal Nature Neuroscience, neurobiologists at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) have confirmed that very weak varying electric fields in brain tissue significantly affect neuronal behaviour.

The brain, both awake and sleeping, is awash in electrical activity and not just from the individual pings of single neurons communicating with each other.

In fact, the brain is enveloped in countless overlapping electric fields, generated by the neural circuits of scores of communicating neurons.




This article suggests those fields seem to communicate in different areas of the brain, even when the fields do not connect. In other words, the brain is using entanglement...

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.news...lain-memories/


And this article shows atomic ensembles can be entangled with single photons..
http://news.mit.edu/2015/thousands-a...le-photon-0325
single photons are being used to entangle atomic ensembles with thousands of atoms..
but they can also be "split" and used to entangle distant ensembles in the very same way
This is the nature of Optical/ Photonic Networking


Imo, there is a COHERENT STATE in the mind, and Coherent states, thus COHERENCE, allow entanglement to exist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coherent_states

Quote:


"The electric field, measured by optical homodyne detection, as a function of phase for three coherent states emitted by a Nd:YAG laser.

The amount of quantum noise in the electric field is completely independent of the phase. As the field strength, i.e. the oscillation amplitude α of the coherent state is increased, the quantum noise or uncertainty is constant at 1/2, and so becomes less and less significant. In the limit of large field the state becomes a good approximation of a noiseless stable classical wave. The average photon numbers of the three states from bottom to top are <n>=4.2, 25.2, 924.5[5]"
(Remember, The electric field is solely mediated by PHOTONS,(the quantized aspect of the EMF) hence the use of photon counting or homodyne detection)

So if we view neural networks as atomic ensembles communicating via photons.. features of today's QUANTUM NETWORKS

"In quantum optics the coherent state refers to a state of the quantized electromagnetic field, that describes a maximal kind of coherence and a classical kind of behavior"


AND HERE IS AN ARTICLE ABOUT ENTANGLED COHERENT STATES..
WHICH IS WHAT THE "ENTANGLEMENT IN BRAINS" ARTICLE ALSO SEEMS TO SUGGEST

https://journals.aps.org/pra/abstrac...RevA.64.022313

NOW PHASE DIFFERENCES ARE THEEE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF NEURAL ACTIVITY, DEPOLARIZATION AND ACTION POTENTIALS.
& ELECTRICAL ACTIVITY or PHOTON EXCHANGE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF IT.

"When a superposition of two coherent states with opposite phase falls upon a 50-50 beam splitter, the resulting state is entangled"

SO MIGHT THIS MEAN, CERTAIN NEURONS ACT AS BEAMSPLITTERS?
Or another way of saying this, do neural networks utilize parametric down conversion?
or Pulsed beams & Optical pumping ?
IS THE BRAIN AN OPTICAL NETWORK?

Quote:
In quantum optics the coherent state refers to a state of the quantized electromagnetic field, that describes a maximal kind of coherence and a classical kind of behavior.

See :
Optical Neural Networks


https://books.google.ca/books?id=QMi...orking&f=false



THE COMMUNICATION BEING DONE BY NEURONS AND THE ELECTRIC FIELDS (EACH OF WHICH IS A COHERENT STATE) IS VIA THE EXCHANGE OF PHOTONS.. A FORM OF "IN THE BRAIN, TELEPORTATION"


ENTANGLEMENT IS BEING USED BY THE BRAIN.


Which would then allow communication (as it relates to EEGs and electrical activity) to be extended outside of the brain.

By homodyne detection as used in quantum repeaters and teleportation.

Simple science.
Now the world should begin to realize how applicable this is to BCIs.
No Neural lace, no implants.
Just Biosensors capable of FRET, SNOM, Photon tunnelling microscopy and quantum state measurements.
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this is just a COOL way of illustrating my main hypothesis...

This is simple dust in an ion trap...


so not only can you levitate dust...
YOU CAN LEVITATE NANODIAMONDS thus NV CENTERS

https://arxiv.org/abs/1605.02953
Electron spin resonance from NV centers in diamonds levitating in an ion trap

http://www.iflscience.com/physics/le...amonds-lasers/
Scientists Levitate Nanodiamonds Using Lasers






or use them in ARRAYS on chips..

https://www.iaf.fraunhofer.de/en/ran...nodiamond.html

or layer them above Graphene to transfer the states in the NV centers to graphene for electronic observation/ manipulation
Quote:
"The developed technique builds on a direct transfer of energy from nitrogen-vacancy centers in nanodiamonds to a neighboring graphene layer. When laser light shines on a nanodiamond, a light photon raises an electron from its ground state to an excited state in the nitrogen-vacancy center. The excited electron and the vacated ground state are seen as a dipole that, consecutively, induce a dipole of an electron and a vacancy in the neighboring graphene layer, which, in turn, induces an readout electric current"



or blast each individual NV center with its own microwave pulses, creating QUBITS..
which can then be written to on a wavefunction level. by manipulating its precession/spin
(BECAUSE ION TRAPS ARE EXCELLENT AT CONTROLLING QUANTUM STATES)

AND YOU CAN UTILIZE THE BIOSENSORS NV CENTERS AND NANODIAMOND PLATES
TO IMAGE NEURONS..



THEN UTILIZE THE MACROSCOPIC ENTANGLEMENT NATURE OF NV CENTERS..
http://www.quantumlah.org/highlight/111202_diamonds



THEN TELEPORT THE MEASURED QUANTUM STATEs AND their ELECTRIC FIELD, AS PROBED...

TO THE NV CENTERS LEVITATING IN THE ION TRAP..,



kinda like this..


but FIRST.. you excite the Neurons and the atoms within in QUANTUM ELECTRODYNAMIC CAVITIES, or OPTOMECHANICAL CAVITY MODES... and use photons to generate entanglement in the atomic ensembles you have targeted.. then BEAMSPLIT that.. to the ion trap and entangle distant atomic ensembles

http://news.mit.edu/2015/thousands-a...le-photon-0325
Thousands of atoms entangled with a single photon


Now I can see the entire world in CODE, we are all quantum states in ion traps!
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Sorry LOST forum. I know efforts are being made to get the forum back to LOST.
But I need to use all my friends here as a test audience.
I want this technology explained so well that I get published in WIRED magazine.

Eventually.

There will be a lot of cutting and pasting between these last two posts soon.
Then comes the colouring book.

I want to try this from a more BCI Hypothesis approach, foregoing any accusations, targeted to people like Elon Musk, Brian Johnson, Neuralink, Randal Koene, Tan Le and the rest of the interface experts.


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HOW TO HACK THE HUMAN BRAIN


1.
Brain Computer Interfaces utilize EEG signals
Making these possible:
- Mentally Interfacing with Computers and Devices
- BRAIN TO BRAIN COMMUNICATION/ SYNTHETIC TELEPATHY
- REAL TIME VISION RECONSTRUCTION *
- NEUROGAMING

2.
EEG signals rely on the ELECTRICAL ACTIVITY of Neurons

3.
Each neuron generates an electrical field
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/201...runc_sys.shtml

4.
The electric field is carried by PHOTONS

"After quantization of the electromagnetic field, the EM (electromagnetic) field consists of discrete energy parcels, photons. Photons are massless particles of definite energy, definite momentum, and definite spin."



5.
The electric field can be homodyned or "photon counted" by MEMs tech, which is capable of homodyne detection:

"The electric field, measured by optical homodyne detection, as a function of phase for three coherent states emitted by a Nd:YAG laser. The amount of quantum noise in the electric field is completely independent of the phase. As the field strength, i.e. the oscillation amplitude α of the coherent state is increased, the quantum noise or uncertainty is constant at 1/2, and so becomes less and less significant. In the limit of large field the state becomes a good approximation of a noiseless stable classical wave."

___

Using BioMems technology : Microfluidic biosensors which utIlize Nitrogen Vacancy centers (NV centers) as quantum spin probes, those electric fields can be measured
determining the quantum state

As discussed in this link
http://www.nld.ds.mpg.de/~armin/proj...d/diamond.html

___

http://www.iqst.ca/quantech/homotomo.php

The role of the mechanical coordinate in the electromagnetic wave is played by the electric field. If we had an “electroscope” able to perform phase-sensitive measurements of the electric field in an electromagnetic mode, we would be able to reconstruct the “quantum portrait” of the mode’s quantum state – its Wigner function.

Unfortunately, such an “electroscope” does not exist. Typical oscillation frequencies of the light fields are hundreds of terahertz, and no one can build a detector that can follow such fast changes. Yet one can use a trick that allows to do phase-sensitive measurements of the electric field using regular, “slow” detectors. This trick is called balanced homodyne detection – here is its main idea.

Quantum objects are usually small, and electromagnetic fields that exhibit quantum properties are usually weak. Let us overlap the mode whose quantum properties we want to measure (the “signal” mode) with a relatively strong laser beam (the “local oscillator”) on a beam splitter [fig. 2]. If the electric fields in the two modes are Es and ELO, the fields emerging in the two beam splitter output ports are given by

Let us now have both beam coming out of the beam splitter hit high-efficiency photodiodes. A photodiode is a device which generates electric current proportional to the intensity (not the amplitude) of the electromagnetic field incident on it. Our two photodiodes produce photocurrents that we subtract from each other. The photocurrent difference is given by...
since ELO >> Es, we neglect the quantum noise of the local oscillator field and find out that the photocurrent difference is proportional to the amplitude of the signal field – exactly the quantity we are looking for!

"By changing the relative optical phase of the local oscillator and signal waves, we measure the electric field at different phases. At each phase, we perform a multitude of electric field measurements (each time preparing an identical quantum state in the signal channel) thus obtaining the marginal distribution. A set of marginal distributions for various q’s will provide us with full information about the quantum state – and allows us to reconstruct its Wigner function and the density matrix."


Mems provide a reference frequency
(The state SUBTRACTED from the Homodyned sum)
And can be used for "photon counting"..* Which Homodyning replaces..

6.
MEMS CAN MEASURE INDIVIDUAL
ELECTRIC FIELDS OF INDIVIDUAL IN VIVO NEURONS...

VIA FRET & OPTICAL CAVITY EXCITATION TECHNIQUES....


7.
Electric fields can be reconstructed in Ion traps, which also utilize NV centers and are capable of controlling quantum states :

"Quantum state manipulation of trapped atomic ions - Time and ...
tf.nist.gov › general › pdf
by DJ Wineland - ‎Cited by 42 - ‎Related articles
quantum computation based on multiple trapped ions. ... quantum optics ; quantum state engineering; trapped atoms."

Thus allowing entanglement to be established between the electric fields of neurons and the "wavefunction identical" electric fields now reconstructed in the traps around the atomic ensembles, which themselves can be entangled by photons, setting up nonlocal, entanglement based Brain Computer Interfaces.


And Yes, electric fields, like the photons responsible for the force, can be teleported.

"A concrete analysis of the teleportation of the state of a continuous system
(the electromagnetic field) was first discussed by Braunstein and Kimble"



& Wigner functions are used in teleportation
https://arxiv.org/abs/1012.5616
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You don't owe us any apologies.

For shit's sake, if NAM can get away with hawking his crappy plastic and glass "jewelry" here, your thread is not the slightest bit difficult to justify.

Personally, i think it's amazing that you're making all this information available here, and if anything, we owe you some thanks.
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But Barbies accessories are so much more important than the technology that will either save humanity, or continue to molest it in VR dreams violating every SINGLE human right law ever created, no?

Just wait till the shit REALLY hits the fan

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Interesting article today.
Perhaps its got a place in this technology.

Sure would answer some lingering questions regarding collapse vs entanglement when measuring quantum states

I always assumed some form of non demolition or delayed choice erasure was being utilized.

https://futurism.com/scientists-achi...he-first-time/

Counterfactual Communication

Quantum communication is a strange beast, but one of the weirdest proposed forms of it is called counterfactual communication – a type of quantum communication where no particles travel between two recipients.

Theoretical physicists have long proposed that such a form of communication would be possible, but now, for the first time, researchers have been able to experimentally achieve it – transferring a black and white bitmap image from one location to another without sending any physical particles.

(now think about how this would work for REAL TIME VISION RECONSTRUCTION and this entanglement based BCI)
If that sounds a little too out-there for you, don’t worry, this is quantum mechanics, after all. It’s meant to be complicated. But once you break it down, counterfactual quantum communication actually isn’t as bizarre as it sounds.

First up, let’s talk about how this differs from regular quantum communication, also known as quantum teleportation because isn’t that also a form of particle-less information transfer?

Well, not quite. Regular quantum teleportation is based on the principle of entanglement – two particles that become inextricably linked so that whatever happens to one will automatically affect the other, no matter how far apart they are.

This is what Einstein referred to as “spooky action at a distance“, and scientists have already used it to send messages over vast distances.

But that form of quantum teleportation still relies on particle transmission in some form or another. The two particles usually need to be together when they’re entangled before being sent to the people on either end of the message (so, they start in one place, and need to be transmitted to another before communication can occur between them).

Enter Zeno

Alternatively, particles can be entangled at a distance, but it usually requires another particle, such as photons (particles of light), to travel between the two.
NOTE TO SELF: SENDING PHOTONS MAY ONLY BE REQUIRED TO ESTABLISH THE ENTANGLEMENT IN DISTANT NODES. From that point, the communication is done via phase and the QZD.?

Direct counterfactual quantum communication, on the other hand, relies on something other than quantum entanglement. Instead, it uses a phenomenon called the quantum Zeno effect.

see also
https://arxiv.org/abs/0710.3914

"PROTECTING ENTANGLEMENT VIA QUANTUM ZENO"
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I think there's something i'm not getting here. Why would entanglement deteriorate?
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