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LOST Theories So you think you know some secrets of the island? Maybe you can explain everything. If it's original and you can back it up, we'd love to hear it.

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Old 02-18-06, 02:14 AM   #1
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+ 'Bad' Twins

Spoiler: Not a spoiler, but the most recent list of credible 'bad twin' pics goes here


"Credible" here means arbitrarily decided by me.











Many people watching "One of Them," were struck by the appearance of the U.S. spook (named "Joe Inman" by IMDB) in Sayid's flashback (not Kate's step-dad, but the other guy). Many -- including myself -- wondered if he was the leader of the Others, the man known variously as "Mr. Friendly," "The Bearded Man," "Zeke" and "Captain Gorton."

He wasn't. (He was, in fact, the beautifully creepy Clancy Brown, of the dearly departed Carnivale.) But it sure looked like we were meant to think about him that way. The first shot featuring him lingered on the back of his neck -- a cinematic convention often intended to convey that the identity of the neck's owner is bound to be significant.

All this reminded me of a point I had already been considering. It seems to me there is a theme of imperfect twinning -- resemblances that are close enough to remind, and perhaps deliberately intended as such, but not perfect. In "The Long Con," we got our first glimpse of the LOST product-placement-extravaganza Bad Twin.

Maybe this isn't your typical "evil twin" reference, but rather a reference to imperfect twinning -- duplicates who fall short of the mark. (Interestingly, cloning experiments on cats produced two cats who were genetically identical but did not look alike.) The twins aren't necessarily morally bad -- they're "bad" copies -- in the sense that they are not perfect recreations of their originals.

Here are just a couple of the visual examples, as I see them:



Although I am using "bad" without value judgment above, there are also elements of moral and intellectual bad-twinning on LOST. Many of the family/formative relations we've seen on LOST have also been imperfect, reversed or even opposed reflections. Charlie and Liam, Eko and his brother (did he have a name?), Kate and Wayne, Jack and Christian, Jin and Mr. Paik (maybe), Sayid and his "hero" father (expect more on this to come), Sawyer and "the real Sawyer," and Wayne and Sawyer.

(As an aside, I now believe Wayne is the real Sawyer. And maybe James Ford's biological father as well. And Frank Sawyer anagrams to Wayne... Frarks. OK, maybe this needs work.)

Direct mirrors and mirror imagery show up in almost every episode. Strangely, when I thought about this, I couldn't remember a single appearance, but there are dozens. I find it curious actually that I couldn't remember any -- even when I saw one rewatching and episode not an hour ago.

Imperfect duplicates -- "Bad Twins" -- and broken symmetry go hand in hand, I think. Locke's missing kidney, his black and white eyes in Claire's dream, Sawyer's makeshift reading glasses, Marvin Candle's missing arm, the Australian woman's missing foot, etc.

Is the Island itself a bad reflection? An imperfect mirror in which the outer world is reflected in distorted fashion? Or does the Island reflect its inhabitants? Reflecting their lives, recreating their crisis moments over and over again... Even plucking the thoughts from their brains and reflecting them in external form. Or, alternatively, as I argued here, the castaways are the mirrors -- imperfectly reflecting the Island's stimuli as distorted or unreal memories, memories loaded with interconnections that stem from impurities like the warped shapes in a funhouse mirror....

What is the "bad" in "Bad Twin"? As described above, or something else? Our castaways are pretty f---ing bad on their own rights. Do they have evil twins, or are they the evil twins?

Thoughts?

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Old 02-18-06, 03:35 AM   #2
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Spooky can be very encouraging. This fits with the many mirrored images we see in the show too. You can check out the official mirror thread in GD.

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With lost-media down, I can't link to the caps but imo Monica Dean was cast in in Hunting Party primarily because of her resemblance to Kate. In Gabriela's and Jack's final scene, it looked more like Kate getting out from the car than Gabriela.
There was no good/bad differentiation (other than from Jack's point of view; Gabriela seemed more amenable to his charms than Kate) but it was confirmation to the pattern of deliberate mirroring..

Abandoned also had an eerie resemblance, one WITH a good/bad differentation. Saint Claire and Evil Sabrina had identical hairstyles and very similar tops in scenes in which they were shown in profile. It's the only episode in which Claire wore her hair back in that fashion.
eta: I think it was Sabrina but it could have been Shannon.
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In a recent podcast, Lindelof or Cuse compared the island to a mirror.
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With lost-media down, I can't link to the caps but imo Monica Dean was cast in in Hunting Party primarily because of her resemblance to Kate. In Gabriela's and Jack's final scene, it looked more like Kate getting out from the car than Gabriela.
I've done some visual id work in my freelance writing on terrorism, and one thing I've learned is that there is an amazing amount of difference in how people judge whether people look alike. Which is a long way of saying that I didn't think Gabriela looked like Kate. However, I'm also lost without Lost-Media, so I'll wait for the film at 11...
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There was also the episode where in flash back we see Kate with the "claire hairdo" getting out of the car... we think it is Claire, but it ends up being Kate... who then dies her hair brown and goes on to visit her mother. It will be interesting to see what she was up to as a blond!
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I've done some visual id work in my freelance writing on terrorism, and one thing I've learned is that there is an amazing amount of difference in how people judge whether people look alike. ...
True. I don't see any resemblance at all between Kate & Danielle.

However, I thought your contention was that the creative staff is creating deliberate albeit subtle resemblances. You mentioned how they framed the shot of Clancey Brown. I agree. The two actors look nothing alike but we were given cues that seemed to encourage us to compare the two.

Hunting Party did the same with Kate and Gabriela. They juxtaposed their respective scenes with Jack. In some scenes Gabriela was positioned and lit in a way designed to make her look like Kate, imo. We've speculated this was to show Jack's attraction to women with this particular look. He never seemed to have the same kind of spark with Sarah that he did with Kate and Gabriela.
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However, I thought your contention was that the creative staff is creating deliberate albeit subtle resemblances. You mentioned how they framed the shot of Clancey Brown. I agree. The two actors look nothing alike but we were given cues that seemed to encourage us to compare the two.
Quite right, I am sorry... I was momentarily fixated on the pictures (is Lost Media back yet)?
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Lostmio, the Gabriela Kate twinning was far more profound than illuminating Jack's relationship with women. Gabriela loved her father dearly and would go to any length to save him. Kate murdered her biological father, and could not wait to leave him. That's what I took from Jack's otherwise uninspiring FB.

Also, with all the verbiage spilled about this week's ep, I've seen no one mentioned that Sayid's C.O. told us that his father was a "hero" who's image he would never live up to. There is undoubtedly more there for future revelations.

Each castaways' father/mother offers a different twist on the "bad twin" motive, when we see the choices they made in life vs. the choices our heroes make.

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good point, heat miser.

now, which one was the nasty one? how would we know?
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