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LOST Theories So you think you know some secrets of the island? Maybe you can explain everything. If it's original and you can back it up, we'd love to hear it.

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Old 10-22-05, 11:57 PM   #101
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Re: The numbers finally cracked!

Yeah, I know. I actually meant to put this in another thread.

Sorry for the confusion.
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Old 10-23-05, 02:49 AM   #102
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After reading mentioning of the constellation's being mirrored/reversed, and then hearing about the big/little dipper, it made me think of North, and this:

In one of the episodes Locke or Saiyid, can't remember which, asks Jack what direction he thinks north is. He points north, and they agree that's where north is, but the compas shows it is off by a certain amount of degrees, and they dismiss it as a broken compas.

I mentioned it to my friend, and she said likely it was because of the big magnetic generator thing in the hatch, which sounds pretty much correct, but I figured I'd mention it anyway.

Is there any way to reference where the sun rises/sets in any episodes, and then try to figure if the constellations/direction's match up? Might be far fetched, but eh..
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Old 10-23-05, 03:53 PM   #103
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Good point.
The sun always sets to the right of the plane crash looking out from the beach.
thus they are looking pretty north.
that solves that.
But still goves no idea of location.
However in episode 2 or 3 Saed tells Shannon not to layout on the beach too long, they are close to the equator and the UV rays are more intense.
So we know they face north and are along the equator.
Any ideas obout longitutde?
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xkmaillost was asking about longitude. We are all interested in where the Island is or might be. I found a pretty neat site on Great Circles. A great circle is the shortest path between to points on a sphere. For Lost, the Earth is close enough to a sphere. Anyway, I put in SYD-LAX for one route, and then I put in SYD-4.815N 162.342W for the second route. Using the hatch numbers as coordinates is not my idea, others long ago came up with this idea. You could try 4d8'15"N 162d34'2"W or 162d3'42"W. It won't change the result much. As seen from the image below, we might know where the island is, maybe, possibly ...

I went back to the Great Circles site and played around a bit more. The map resolution is not good, and I don't want to spend time on spherical triginometry right now, but if the Island is at the coordinates of the Hatch then the plane crashed 200 - 250 miles off of the great circle route. Since this route should use the least fuel, I am assuming Oceanic 815 would have flown it.

P.S. Was Oceanic 815 non-stop?


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Old 10-24-05, 03:13 PM   #105
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I thought they stated 815 was 1000 miles off course?
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Did the pilot say they were a 1000 miles of course, or that they were a 1000 miles from where searchers would be looking? Since he turned the plane around after they lost communication, they back-tracked. If my map means anything (a big IF) then the pilot was doing a pretty good job of back-tracking. I am guessing that the pilot really didn't know where they were (because of failed electronics). He turned the plane around and perhaps flew for nearly two hours before the crash. The jet flies at, what, 550 mph, so about 1000 miles.

Edit: I checked the tarnscript and the pilot said:
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6 hours in. Our radio went out, no one could see us. We turned back to land in Fiji, by the time we hit turbulence we were 1000 miles off course. They're looking for us in the wrong place.
They may not have been exactly on the great circle route. I am going to do some more checking.
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Any ideas obout longitutde?
I think they WERE at the intersection of the international dateline and the equator. Where they ARE is an entirely different question that I suspect can't be answered using simple 3D coordinates.
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Re: 6 constellations (The numbers finally cracked!)

From NeillT006 in MAPS of the island & hatch in 3d byYung23
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The Egyptians located the pyramids to reflect the relative locations of stars in a constellation.

What do you think about the 6 hatch locations being located to reflect the location of the 6 stars in the Connect 4 constellation?

I bring this to you since you are the map man.

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This got me thinkin' about this again so I will give it a bump and see how it takes.
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Re: 6 constellations (The numbers finally cracked!)

hey xkmaillost


The sun always sets to the right of the plane crash looking out from the beach.
thus they are looking pretty north.
that solves that.


this would mean they are looking SOUTH. trust me.

if the water is always to the right of the beach, and we know the sun sets in the west..(to the right)... then we are looking south
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OK, you know me. I like the stars. But, wouldn't this actually have a chance of meaning something if the 6 MEssier objects actaully matched up in some way with the 6 constellations of Appollo? The fact that there is a numbering system for Messier objects that contains the numbers 4,8,15,16,23,42 really doesn't mean much to me. Does it to you?

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Ditto, NeillT006 -- this thread had me very interested, but when I saw no connection between the 6 constellations of Apollo and the 6 messier numbers, it is not nearly as jaw-dropping as I thought. Still, even if it doesn't explain the numbers, it appears that the symbology in the hatch (apollo bar, the swan symbol, etc) seem to be tied-in to these constellations.
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